[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/14/2005 7:19:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
original text?
God's Spirit cannot work through hermeneutics and contextual studies of the
OH I have been looking for the Originals, you found them?
Unless a bunch of word wranglers Collate a bunch of ms we can not get to the real meanings &nuance?
KD says You have made an assertion what is the evidence?
JD SAYS You volunteer as a member of an e-mail discussion group and then get all bunched up when someone wants to have a discussion with you that involves something more than, "Yeah, Kev, you are right, again."
"Come, let us reason together" is good advice you despise.
Here is a fact, Kev ---- without going to original text, there is much that you cannot know about the biblical message. None of that study is necessary for salvation -- because salvation has nothing to do with 'study." and everything to do with being in the very person of Christ as you understand that to be. But, having said that, again, there is
so much that you miss when to presist in this willful ignorance you seem to find so holy. JD
KD says First go ahead then show us just what we cannot know. get out your books and give us a whopper. I am sure everyone is curious about this. Just what are we missing? But you still have not told us where that "Original text is. While each Greek text has it's own readings which differ from each other in thousands of places, how do we know which is right? If the greek texts come from the Minority manuscripts which have been shown to be hopelessly corrupted how can a "scholar" turn them to pure? The following verse seems to say the Holy Spirit not Scholars will guide us into ALL Truth All this strife about words....
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.
KD says I find that there are many spirits saying they have something you don't have. All the cults Allure their prospects and beguile unstable souls. Some bite onto the hook. It is "desired" to make one wise. "You do not have this want some?" LDS have additional scripture (maybe you are missing something) Allured through a Covetous spirit?
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat
2 Pt talks of False teachers And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you
lest any man should beguile you with enticing words
For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
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