Re: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth

[Lance Muir]

John speaks of 'judging the destiny of others' as inappropriate. I note further that such as David, Izzie and Kevin seem to 'delight' in speaking of it. (burn, burn, burn) ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2005 04:02 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth In a message dated 2/25/2005 7:17:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And Einstein burns, and Einstein burns Oh yeah, and King James was an Evangelical Christian.   The Bible speaks of "judging"  and gives instruction on two differing levels.   The first is that judgment we make of others.   We are told to judge those within the fellowship of the saints  --   but there is a limit to this judgment --- the actions of the indvidual.  Not the destiny of the individual.    Even when we "disfellowship" a disciple, we are told to continue to entreat him as a brother.    And then,  there is the destiny issue  --   reserved for the judgment of God Himself.   That is is His job.  The words used to speak of this judgment imply the IMPOSSIBILITY of this act [of judgment] on our part.    It is not that we are not supposed to  --   rather, it is that such is IMPOSSIBLE.    What remains as an issue of judgment, then?   Not simply the judgment of the actions of others as mentioned above.   There is further limitation.   For when we commit to that judgment,  we are ever mindful of our own failings  (Romans 2) .   When the Lord  (that would be Jesus) tells us that the judgment we issue to others is incurred by ourselves  --  the only lesson  implicit in this caution is that of brotherly love.   If judgment at times is necessary;   if judgment as to eternal destiny is not of our opinion at all;  if judgment of another opens the door to personal admission  --   then, that which is given to us as a responsiblity  (those who are spiritual give help to those who are weak) must be done in the greatest of humility and kindness  because we hope to receive this very attitude from God when our judgment takes place.     When we judge the destiny of others, we show ourselves to be ignorant of the expressed will of God on this point and in as much danger as those whom we criticize.    That IS the biblical message.  Pastor J JD