It rather reflects your connection
to reality Lance; I am still right on target. This thread began
with reality vs imagination and I am still
right there in spite of your attempt to veer off into a Q
& A session with you supplying both questions and answers
along with some of the same old accusations.
Yesterday at our Bible Study we sang
a hymn based on (2 Tim 1:12) titled "I Know Whom I Have Believed"
written by Daniel W. Whittle (1804-1901). And this old
saint knew what he was about. The words to
the 3nd stanza read "I know not how the Spirit moves, convincing men
of sin, revealing Jesus through the
Word, creating
faith in Him" - I submit
that this is the ONLY way Jesus is
and has ever been revealed because "Faith comes by hearing and
hearing, by the Word of God (Romans 10:17), and if we are justified
before God we are justified by faith (Romans
5:1,2).
To have faith in a figment of your
own imagination has no foundation in God, in fact we are instructed
to "Cast down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself
against the knowledge of God and to bring EVERY
thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ" (2
Cor 10:5); the ppl who God gives over to their own destructive ways
in Romans 1 had become "vain in their
imaginations" so it is nothing to take lightly.
for Karl Barth's teachings to pass muster they would have to
undergo the searchlight of scripture - and so far they have a
failing grade. jt
Am I the only one to have noticed that
Jt's responses to posts function on a sliding scale? The 'scale' reflects a diminishing connection to the
content of the post, the more
responses there are. If it were a tactic, it'd be a good one should
avoidance be the objective. Jt:You actually don't see it do you? Should you ever wish to
understand why some just cry 'enough' then, that's part of the
reason. Why not ask questions
when you just don't understand? YOU ABSOLUTELY DID NOT UNDERSTAND
GARY OR BILL! If David's out there 'lurking', he just might have.
Terry did not. Linda surely did not. Kevin COULD NOT.
Also Judy, why not leave off taking
'pot shots' at that which you think you're supposed to disagree with
even when you don't apprehend the meaning of what's being said
(meant)?
Not a claim Lance; I made a comment
having to do with conjuring up some kind of Jesus by using one's
imagination which you apparently see as normal christianity and
which to me is divination. jt
These are not demands. You make a claim
on your own behalf. You are asked to back up this claim. You say
that you won't do it.I believe that what just happened here is in
need of little in the way of interpretation. It is certainly not
ironic.
Lance I've got to go out and
won't be back until later today lest you misinterpret my silence. I
find it ironic that you - the one who comes in with the one liner
and then retires until the noise dies down would make these kinds of
demands. You who normally speak in obscure unintelligible
sentences (to those who don't spend all of their times watching
movies that is). jt
Jt's 'slip slidin' away' once again.
When your asked ANYTHING with some specificity, you just turn the
tables thus, critiquing the one who asks you a genuine question.
Will you:
1. Demonstrate my meaning?
2. Address the issue therein?
Please put up or......
When you, David, Kevin et al SELECT
TEXTS which you deem appropriate for any issue under discussion, you
are interpreting, teaching, imagining..God's own answers to that
which is being spoken of. I do not believe that you've ever 'seen'
that, nor do I believe that you ever will 'see' that. IMO it's not
complicated.
jt: You don't have to
"believe me" Lance since I'm not looking for followers. However, I
do think it tragic that you know so much about movies and lines in
movies and so little about the Word of God which shows me clearly
which type of wisdom has your full attention. Obviously you
are not involved with taking thoughts captive to the obedience of
Christ but rather walking in the counsel of the ungodly and sitting
in the seat of the scoffer (with regard to DM anyway) jt
I don't demonize any part of the
body per se Lance but without spiritual discernment everyone is open
to deception. Look at how the adversary uses the "imagination"
and John Lennon's song is a perfect example. God does not
reveal Himself to mankind through their fallen imaginations. Nor
does He reveal His Word to us in this way. Faith imagination
is a misnomer. How do you know the Jesus you conjure up is not
the "angel of light?" God will either hide or reveal
Himself to whomsoever He wills - and He hides Himself from the proud
but gives grace to the humble. jt
Jt:'I don't want a Jesus of my own
imagination..'
1. Please don't
demonize the imagination. It comes into play in all of our
thinking (theologizing).
The kind of 'interpreting' that you,
David et al do on a regular basis.
2. Therefore, like it or not, YOU DO HAVE A JESUS OF YOUR OWN
'IMAGINING'.
G, you sound just like my mother
who, last time I was with her was in total unbelief and I have no
reason to believe things
have changed since then. She told me one would have to
have a good imagination to believe the Bible. This is the
fruit of liberal unbelieving scholars and clergy on the radio and in
her Church which BTW has
lost it's candlestick and is getting ready to close the doors and
auction the building. God will not be mocked and ppl always reap what they sow. I
don't want a Jesus of my own imagination who would just be another antichrist figure.
judyt
