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Terry wrote > Those who ignore God's offer of
reconcilliation remain enemies, die in their sin and spend eternity in torment.
Hi Terry. I'm wondering how we can be so far apart
on something so seemingly basic to us both. Will you please demonstrate to me
how it is that you consider God's reconciliation to be only an "offer" and not
an act already fully accomplished in and through his Son? In other words, what
is the biblical basis for your belief?
Thanks in advance,
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 7:30
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Eternal
Judgment
Terry Clifton wrote:
Only murdering God carries such a penalty, and
anyone who rejects Him is complicit in His
death. DAVEH: My understanding of your belief is
that those who accept him are complicit in His
death. Why would those who would say no thank
you to Jesus be complicit?
I feel that way because God has said that in His
word.
DAVEH: I'm not sure what you are thinking
about.....Can you give me a reference on that, Terry.
I
believe Him. To say otherwise would be to Judge God and find Him
unworthy.
DAVEH: Perhaps from a believer's
standpoint. But I don't see how that applies to an
unbeliever---somebody who has never accepted Jesus to start with.
=============================================== Reference.
I Cor.11:27- 28 Those who take communion in a worthy manner are
true Christians. Those who take it in an unworthy manner are
pretenders, lost people, sinners who are guilty of the death of
Christ.
Psalm 7:11 God is angry with the sinner every day.
James
4:4 Friends of the world are enemies of God
Romans 5:10 Through the
death of Christ, we, who were at one time enemies of God, are reconciled
to Him.
DAVEH: Thank you for the above
references, Terry. Though I do agree with your analysis of each
passage, I fail to see how they apply to your original
comment.......
.....anyone who rejects Him is complicit in His
death.
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Read
1 Cor.11 again. They are guilty of the body and the blood of
Christ
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DAVEH:
I took another look at it Terry. To me it clearly is referring to
somebody taking communion, which is something one would not expect a rejector
of Christ to do. The passage makes no reference to the non
believer.
......Do
most Protestants (or Christians, if you don't like my usage of Protestant)
feel the way you do about it?
BTW......My
apologies for taking so long to respond to your post....just been a bit
busy
lately.
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I
honestly do not know how most others think,Dave. I can't even figure
out what some of those on this list think. I am sorta outside the
crowd anyway, somewhere on the fringe where those go who are either really
weird, or refuse to travel the wide road, or both. I left the first
church I left because the preacher called me into his office and told me not
to discuss his salary (I was on the finance committee.) I left another
because some (not me) wanted to fire the preacher and the preacher did not
want to go and it got real ugly. I left another because the preacher
wanted to build a million dollar gym. (We had no benevolence fund, but he
got his gym.). I left the last one because I taught the truth about
divorce and had half the congregation upset. I was asked to repent, or
leave. I left. You probably need to find a mainline protestant
and ask your questions of him or her. Maybe ask their community if you
want the real
truth.
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DAVEH:
OK Terry. I appreciate you sharing your opinion. At this point,
I'll assume it is not similarly believed by many others, unless other TTers
would suggest otherwise. Thanx again!
Those who are reconciled are adopted as His
children. Those who ignore God's offer of reconcilliation remain
enemies, die in their sin and spend eternity in torment.
There are
probably a dozen ways to twist these scriptures to say something else,
but that is what God's word is saying to me. If you are still in
your sins, unforgiven, you are guilty of the blood of
Christ.
Terry
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