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Terry writes > While I am at it, I should point out that not
"every one is In Christ". Romans 13:5 cl;early points that out.
I am going to guess that you meant to reference 2
Corinthians 13.5, Terry: "Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the
faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?
-- unless indeed you are disqualified." Where in this verse does it point out
that not everyone is in Christ? Do you not recognize a difference between
humanity being in Christ and Christ being in you, the hope, or confidence, or
expectation, or assurance of glory?
Bill
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Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:06
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God's Hate and
God's Wrath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 3/22/2005 8:54:21 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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writes:
Caroline Wong wrote:
I think he is referring to the idea that
all believers are saints. That's how the Apostle Paul addressed the
believers in his letters.
Love,
Caroline
The demons believe, and
tremble. They are believers. Are they
saints?Terry
Let's see --
first Izzy and now Terry ------ with a question that most
certainly has an obvious answer. This is a discussion
group. So discuss !!! And speak to the true meaning
of the author. But before you continue the discusson, maybe you
two could explain the difference between the believing demons and those who
are saved apart from obedience to the law. Put some scripture behind
it. Enlighten us or speak as the Ogre speaks.
Discerning minds would like to know.
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is exactly what the author meant.
"The demons believe, and tremble,"
means that the demons believe and tremble. I thought that was pretty
clear.
Next question, how does that apply to liberals?
Answer: If you think that salvation is for those who believe, do not
drink blood and are not fornicating, you might start trembling too. The
sermon on the mount was not just for Jews. When Jesus said,"Why do you
call me Lord when you do not obey me", that question was not for those under
the law only. The Gospels spell out in great detail what Christ expects
from those who call Him Lord, and obedience is always way up there on the
list. While I am at it, I should point out that not "every one is In
Christ". Romans 13:5 cl;early points that out.
That sane verse
also tells us to examine ourselves, to see if we are in the faith. How
do we do that? Some would say,"I wrote down the date in my Bible when I
got saved". Others would say they walked an aisle, or said a sinners
prayer, or signed a card. Some think that you are saved unless you
reject Christ, others rely on their warm fuzzy feelings or their attendance
record at church. None of that will hold water when you fall on your
face in front of the Lord. When that day comes, you won't hold up your
Bible or your attendance record. You won't want to hear Him talk about
the card you signed. The only words you will want to hear are "Well
done, my good and FAITHFUL servant". You show the difference between
yourself and the demons by being "Faithful". To me, that means you do
what He says to do, and you don't do what He says not to do. It's
called obedience, not to the law, but to Christ. Examine yourself to see
how faithful you are.
Better stop now or I'll start
preaching.
Terry
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