RE: [TruthTalk] John 16:13 fg. - Perhaps it's focus is WHO not so much WHAT

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So, Lance, aren’t you RCC? Do you believe in transubstantiation? Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:43 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] John 16:13 fg. - Perhaps it's focus is WHO not so much WHAT   This is one GREAT POST! Amen Terry. ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 02, 2005 21:12 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] John 16:13 fg. - Perhaps it's focus is WHO not so much WHAT   Caroline Wong wrote:   So how do we eat of this "bread" - is it as tradition teaches - the wafer that a priest transforms during the Mass?   I'm not sure if that is your tradition but it's not the tradition that I'm familiar with. Jesus Christ instituted two sacraments to remember Him by - the Lord's supper. When we gather to eat of the bread and wine (or grape juice), the pastor will repeat Jesus' immortal words, "this is my body broken for you." "this is my blood" "do this in remembrance of me." A sacrament mediates divine grace. At that time, bread and juice is more than just bread and juice because of the meaning attached to them but it is not literally Jesus' body and blood. We think of it in symbolic terms. When Jesus said I am the bread of life, I am the light of the world, I am the gate, I am the good shepherd, I am the true wine, he is saying something literal about himself using imagery that we can understand.   So does this put Terry on the "negative" side.  Have you read his testimony?   I would love to read his testimony. I can see hints of fellowship at TT but when I entered it was a war zone. Sort of like seeing hints of God's creation in our fallen world ...:-)   Love,   Caroline ================================================================ Just a couple of thoughts, folks. First, communion does not have to be presided over by a priest or pastor.  There are no such instructions in God's word.  When we have communion in my home, I serve the  drink and the bread to my fellow believers in our home church.  When we meet in another's home, the host has that same opportunity. Second, it does not matter whether you use wine, or grape juice, or tomato juice or strawberry kool aid.  Anything that represents the shed blood will do.  Same with the bread.  It can be crackers or cookies or cornbread.  None of us is under ceremonial law and we are all able to eat leavened bread.  We are not celebrating passover, we are taking communion Third, It does not matter if you all drink from the same cup, or if you all have your own cup, or if you drink from a jelly glass.  You are not performing a ritual. Jesus' instructions were to do this to remember Him.  The key word is not cup or wine or unleavened.  The key word is REMEMBER. How's thet for legalism? Terry