Paul says in the text that this is a mystery which has
been hidden from ages and from generations; it is
now revealed to the saints (believers) and then he says
what it is "Christ in you, the hope of glory"
The indwelling of the Holy Spirit is a new thing,
something that had not ever been known before. judyt
Oh, and by the way, Judy, would you mind answering my question (I'll ask it
again): please explain to me what you mean -- i.e., how the "mystery of
godliness" relates to this phrase: "Christ in you, the hope of glory"? It
was after all you who said, Christ in you - the HOPE of
glory is the "mystery of godliness"
Bill
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Perhaps it's focus is WHO not so much WHAT
Paul says in the text that this is a mystery which
has been hidden from ages and from generations; it is
now revealed to the saints (believers) and then he
says what it is "Christ in you, the hope of glory"
The indwelling of the Holy Spirit is a new thing,
something that had not ever been known before. judyt
Colossians 1.24-27 -- I now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill
up in my flesh what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ, for the sake of
His body, which is the church, of which I became a minister according
to the stewardship from God which was given to me for
you, to fulfill the word of God, the mystery which has been hidden from
ages and from generations, but now has been
revealed to His saints. To them God willed to make known what
are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
jt writes > Christ in you - the
HOPE of glory is the "mystery of godliness"
I am not sure I understand you, Judy.
Would you please explain to me what you mean here -- i.e., how the "mystery
of godliness" relates to this phrase: "Christ in you, the hope of
glory"? Bill
Interesting Bill ......
However scripture teaches us that the Holy
Spirit (who inspired and wrote the Law) indwells the
believer.
He is thethird member of the Godhead - Christ
(son of man) is seated at the RH of the Father in heaven.
The Law of Christ or Royal Law is LOVE. But
then this has been so since the foundation of the world
and the main reason Old Covenant ppl failed was
their inability to love which is now replaced under
the New Covenant by power/dunamis emanating from
the cross and the indweling of the Spirit of
Promise so that we can succeed where they
failed.
Christ in you - the HOPE of glory is the "mystery
of godliness"
Grace and Peace, Judy
Perhaps, but I rather think "the
Law" which is placed in the heart of believer's is Christ himself (in the
Spirit);
it is therefore not about "principles" any
longer, but relationship. In other words, "the Law of Christ" is
"Christ in you the hope of Glory."
Bill
Before the cross the Shepherd
was present with the sheep and they were fewer in number,
After the cross sheep are
called by the Father to receive the Son and His Law placed within their
hearts
So the principles below apply
- and are as eternal as the One who gave them; hence no problem
DM is right on ....
judyt
Perhaps, but I rather think "the
Law" which is placed in the heart of believer's is Christ himself (in
the Spirit); it is therefore not about "principles" any longer, but
relationship. In other words, "the Law of Christ" is "Christ in you the
hope of Glory."
Bill
Sooooo, the words of Christ, above, were
given to those who were indwelt by the Spirit?
These are words offered
"pre-Cross," "pre-Pentecost" as are a number of passges
from the
ministry of Christ Incarnate that call
for obedience and perfection -----------
Houston, we have a problem
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JD
No problem and no need to get
legalistic about it JD
Before the cross the Shepherd was
present with the sheep and they were fewer in number,
After the cross sheep are called
by the Father to receive the Son and His Law placed within their
hearts
So the principles below apply -
and are as eternal as the One who gave them; hence no problem
DM is right on ....
judyt
In a message dated 4/2/2005 5:59:05
AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John
10:2-5
(2) But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of
the sheep.
(3) To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his
voice: and he calleth
his own sheep by name, and leadeth them
out.
(4) And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before
them, and the
sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
(5)
And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for
they
know not the voice of strangers.
And also
consider:
John 10:27
(27) My sheep hear my voice, and I
know them, and they follow me:
Being led of the Spirit is not
at all like you described. It is not blind
obedience to
some inner voice that leads to joyless living. Just the
opposite. It leads to a life of great joy and liberty that
this world
simply cannot comprehend. This life is
available to everyone who repents
and believes the gospel of
Jesus
Christ.
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