Re: [TruthTalk] Christ in you, the hope of glory

[Bill Taylor]

Bill wrote to Judy  >  By the way, I agree with you that Christ is seated at the right hand of the Father in heaven; that is why I was careful to say that I think "'the Law' which is placed in the heart of believer's is Christ himself (in the Spirit)." Izzy writes  >  Bill, I am sure we all agree that if one has the Holy Spirit indwelling and is transformed from the inside out that we will MORE than keep the Laws/Commandments of Christ.  Bill responds  >  That is the point, Izzy: we do not all agree that "Christ in you, the hope of glory" (which is the context in which my statement above was made) is synonymous with saying that one "has the Holy Spirit indwelling" him/her. Judy has made a point of arguing that these "sayings" are not saying the same thing. That is why I have continued my discussion with her: to try to get her to clarify what she believes concerning these statements (and ones similar) and why she believes as she does; and this in order that we might move into a discussion which may persuade her to see things our way (yours and mine, and I suspect most all the rest of us).   Izzy writes   >  ... Why you would think those of us who love God�s Laws/Word would think otherwise is puzzling to me.   Would you please explain to me why you think I would think this? -- I have not said so in so may words -- and so, your statement is "puzzling" to me as well.   Oh, and will you also explain to me why you chose my statement above as your springboard to bring this up?    Thanks,   Bill   ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 4:39 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Christ in you, the hope of glory By the way, I agree with you that Christ is seated at the right hand of the Father in heaven; that is why I was careful to say that I think "'the Law' which is placed in the heart of believer's is Christ himself (in the Spirit)." Bill Bill, I am sure we all agree that if one has the Holy Spirit indwelling and is transformed from the inside out that we will MORE than keep the Laws/Commandments of Christ.  That does not, however, mean that we will have contempt for the Law, or think that we are above the Law, or that the Law is no longer relevant, or belittle God�s Law or those who love it.  It means we will cherish the Law all the more as God�s Word, and will think of it as the minimum standard of behavior, as love goes beyond the Law.  (as Jesus did for us.) Those with transformed hearts not only love and understand the Law; they keep it without having to be prodded or shamed into it, as obedience springs forth effortlessly.  The Law alone will carefully apply a Band-Aid to someone�s skinned knee.  The Law in a transformed heart also applies hugs and kisses to the wounded.  Why you would think those of us who love God�s Laws/Word would think otherwise is puzzling to me.  Perhaps you are thinking less than the best of us? Izzy