Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

[Dave Hansen]

Terry Clifton wrote: Dave Hansen wrote: DAVEH:  That seems somewhat contradictory to what Paul described in Eph 2:19-20, where the fellowcitizens with the saints and the household of God (is that not referring to the greater congregation of the Church as a whole?) were given a foundation of apostles and prophets (Jesus being the cornerstone) to form the (hierarchal) framework of the Church.  Could that not be suggesting that a True Church could not exist without apostles and prophets, ================================================================== Mornin' Dave.  Glad you had a safe trip.  Now if you can survive reading all your mail, you might just make it. You are correct that Jesus is the cornerstone and the apostles are the foundation.  Let me add that every new Christian is a living stone, added to that foundation.  These living stones are the living Church, still being built,  a work in progress.  Those stones will continue to be added to this living organism until the end of time, but the foundation has been laid.  We don't need another Jesus and we don't need more prophets or apostles. DAVEH:   Do you not think Jesus will return, Terry?  And do you not recognize the Bible prophesies there will be prophets in the last days?  (Rev 11:10)     After reading Eph 4:11:14....... (11) And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; (12) For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: (13) Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: (14) That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; .........I would ask you Terry, have Christians come to a unity of faith yet?   And, do you think Christians are being tossed around by every wind of doctrine?  If not, then do you suppose apostles and prophets might be needed in the Christian community?    Just more living stones. Blessings, Terry -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.