Re: [TruthTalk] Re [Truth Talk] Saved -- Salvation -- and the pigpen

[Judy Taylor]

Speaking of love, grace, and forgiveness to the exclusion of righteousness, self control, and the judgment to come is one sided and partial truth is error   On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:23:16 -0500 "Caroline Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Would it be fair to say that some people on TT feel that those who speak about love, grace and forgiveness are not serious about morality and obeying God?   Speaking of love, grace, and forgiveness to the exclusion of righteousness, self control, and the judgment to come is one sided and partial truth is error.   Suppose we put that to rest by saying   1) Loving God with all that we are and loving one another as ourselves deters us from breaking the 10 commandment and sin because to sin is to not love God or another person   What if I say that ppl who are ignorant of God's Law do not understand loving self, loving one's neighbor, loving God, or their need for Christ for that matter?.   2) Obedience is part of a relationship with God. Rebellion, sin, unforgiveness, anger etc. hinders that relationship. But obedience is not the sum total of a walk with God.   How are we to obey when we don't know what He says?   Someone told me that a similar pursuing of holiness and righteousness will also make a person more loving. Can someone explain to me how?   Love has a confrontational aspect. When we love someone we are willing to speak the truth to them at the risk of their displeasure and censure of our person (as per Jude 23).   Grace and Peace, judyt