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The scriptures juxtapose knowledge and love; they teach
that knowledge puffs up whereas love builds up.
As for wisdom there are two kinds of that also.
The kind that is from above which is "pure, peaceable, and full
of good fruit" and the other kind that is "earthly,
sensual, and demonic" jt
Nothing categorical can be said about education
per se. There are good educations and bad ones, ones that open the mind and
help the learner make connections, and ones that close the mind and are mere
information. Neither needs to be formal, but a few weeks of the first kind is
gold while years of the second kind are garbage.
Debbie
The barrier to understanding is not education
but whether the person is informed by the Holy Spirit or not while reading.
Education, experience, intelligence etc. increases understanding as the Holy
Spirit can reveal more. The more a person has, more will be given. We all
start with milk but we hopefully don't stay there or churn our milk into
cheese and pretend we're eating meat.
All our great theologians were/are extremely
intelligent: Luther, Calvin, Packer, Stott, Grudem. Intelligence and wisdom
are 2 different things but a Christian can ask for wisdom and he can be
gifted with wisdom by the Spirit. An intelligent Christian with wisdom can
be taught and such a person would be used mightily by the Spirit. Paul is an
example of such a person.
Love,
Caroline
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:10
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re [Truth
Talk] Saved -- Salvation -- and the pigpen
myth (a good example
of a false conclusion in its context =
>This is exactly why the learned have
no understanding of the spiritual content.
I'm totally stunned but I fully agree with Kevin here.
The bible can only be read with the Spirit. My pastor said the same
thing when he wrote about Karl Barth and scripture. I posted it
here sometime ago.
All I can add is, come Holy Spirit and illumine our
conversations here.
Love,
Caroline
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005
3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re
[Truth Talk] Saved -- Salvation -- and the pigpen
Knowing the Language, the customs, the greek, the hebrew and
knowing the stories & words in the scriptures without having the
Holy Ghost is like having the table of Contents only, it is seriously
lacking. One needs the Enlightenment of God's spirit to understand
"spiritual" words
Jesus said "The words I speak unto you they are SPIRIT"
This is exactly why the learned have
no understanding of the spiritual content.
They are spiritually discerned, what can a dead man
understand?
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Maybe, then, Judy, we needn't even bother to read
the Bible in our own language. We could "read" it in Inuktitut
and the Holy Spirit could just siphon the content
into our brains without ANY of the normal means of linguistic
processing.
Debbie, please tell me you are being silly
rather than serious here...
The point being (as laid out in an
earlier post) that making use of context is
something we all do every day in
understanding
anything we hear or read. But
in this case, we are so far away from the context (Jesus'
hearers weren't) that we have to make
a conscious effort to go after it. Of
course it will STILL be necessary for the Holy Spirit to
enlighten and enliven us, as it was
for Jesus' hearers back then; but why would he
expect us to deliberately short-circuit the normal process of
understanding
language? Debbie
He doesn't expect this from us and this is
why He has made His Word available to us in our generation in
the English language. However, an English
speaking person can read an English Bible and a Greek speaking
person can read a Greek Bible with both knowing all about
Israel's history and local customs and yet it
will still be a closed book
without the ministry of the Holy Spirit which is not so
with what we read and what we
hear every day on TV and in the newspaper.
It's something to think
about...
Judyt
Do you use biblcial, historical and
cultural context to help understand the meaning of words?
Or do you see that as a devise of the
uninspired? JD
I don't see Jesus leaving any
admonition about history, culture, and Word Studies in
order to understand the meaning
of His Word. He sent the Holy
Spirit to give us understanding. I don't know what Kevin's
response will be but I see the above
qualifiers as an excuse to make the Word of God say what you
want it to and conform it to strange
and different doctrines rather than receive the "faith once
delivered to the saints". jt
In a message dated 4/14/2005
4:36:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Does the "context" of your writings demand
that we REDFINE your words also?
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