----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Caroline Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: April 19, 2005 05:30
Subject: Fw: Post by Caroline


> May I post this on TT?
>
> Lance
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jonathan Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: April 18, 2005 18:59
> Subject: Post by Caroline
>
>
> > This is a post by Caroline on another email group she is in.  I thought
> > you may find it interesting:
> >
> > Hi Matt;
> >
> > You'll find the chapter where McLaren talks about God saving by judging
> very
> > interesting. I think he is reacting against a certain teaching we've had
> > regarding what Jesus accomplished on the cross and salvation etc.
> >
> > I was at a seminar today, (Victor Shepherd on Paul Molnar's "Divine
> Freedom
> > and the Doctrine of the Immanent Trinity") and at one point Shepherd
> > declared Arianism is the worse of Docetism and Ebionitism and the church
> is
> > 90% of the time Arian. We were like huh? until a brave soul asked in Q&A
> > what he meant. He said Docetism is saying Christ Jesus is more God than
> man
> > and Ebrionitism is saying Jesus Christ is more man than God. Arianism is
> > saying he is a third kind of category, neither God nor man but something
> > above man but below God.
> >
> > Capturing the right Christology is a daunting task. Everything has to be
> > wrung through the Chalcedonian Creed. So here's my two bit attempt on
John
> > 3:16. When Christ died and rose again, we all died and rose with him.
His
> > death atoned for the sins of all mankind. But even though he has
> > accomplished the reconciliation, some men will refuse to reconcile with
> him.
> > However, we're to value each person as God has valued them and leave
final
> > destiny to God's judgment. While we're here, there are no IN/OUT
> categories
> > but a continuum from those who have the fullness of Christ dwelling in
> them
> > and those who have fully rejected Christ and we are to deal with one and
> all
> > wisely in love. The warnings in John 3 are to leave darkness and death
and
> > follow Christ. We're not suppose to use it to figure out who's in and
> who's
> > out. I think that's Abbott and Costello's job.
> >
> > Love,
> >
> > Caroline
>


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