Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Saved - Salvation

Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:44:06 -0700

AMEN!!! I would rather rain on your parade than to let you end up like a cloud without water!

Jude These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jt:You are a RAIN BEARING CLOUD! May I elicit another Amen?
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Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Saved - Salvation

 
 
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 06:20:08 -0600 "Bill Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Yes, yes. Now think about this. If we were to take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ, as we are instructed to do, we would actually "experience" healing holistically -- i.e., not just psychological healing, but physiological as well. That, it seems to me, is "being saved." By the way, the word theraputin, from which we get our word "therapy," is sometimes translated "heal," and sometimes translated "save"; hence the basis for my agreement with you that we were saved in the Christ event -- our ontological salvation -- while now we are being saved existentially in our daily encounter -- and that is the sanctification of our whole being.
 
"And do you not know that you are the temple of God?" Good stuff!  Bill 
 
So the street preachers can all retire because noone has to be drawn to Jesus by the Father now and faith no longer comes by hearing the Word of God?  Being born again is a thing of the past - "old hat?"  It's all the
ontological Christ event huh?
 
Don't want to rain on the parade but without His Spirit indwelling you are not the "temple of God" and this does not happen ontologically.  jt
 
 
In a message dated 4/19/2005 6:47:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"Portraits of Human Nature: Scientific &Theological" by Malcolm Jeeves. Anyway, I think that is what you are talking about. I was thinking I had sent one of his books home with you. Is that right?
 
Bill


Yes indeed.   Thanks for the reminder.    Do you understand what I think is so important about this "immersion" thing.    Jeeves was saying that the brain actually experiences physiological changes over time in view of a particular behavior.    This "immersion" process provides the opportunity for a "righteous"  (if you will)  change if not a reversal.  

What brief comments I heard from Jeeves seems to tie in with what I am experiencing right now.  


Thoughts/

JD
 

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