IRRATIONAL and so far it looks INSINCERE
JD Immersion is an ongoing reality.
JD Anyway -- in the interm, since that time, the high was lost and my addiction became more of a pronounced battle. Beginning the end of last year (Nov '04), I decided to involve myself in this process of immersion into Christ.
JD I want to point to out something in regard to the progression - my progression - as a result of this immersion. I was increasingly aware of the changes within -- growing and more pronounced each day.
JD Yes, it is incredible. I want to emphasize to all, the "experience" I had with God back in '97 included a "spirit filling" as in Ephsians 5:18-19
JD The experience? I have this same filling experience on nearly every occasion that I am involved in song and praise. Never had it before. Does it help in the defeat of sin? No.
JD The filling (for me) came as a result of my obsessing about Jesus (the immersion I am talking about). On the first occasion of this immersion ('97 and following), ... The defeat of my addiction (an emotional addiction - not a physical one) was directly tied to that obsessing. It took a good long while -- several months -------- and it is this obsessing that is the method of deliverance for me now, the second time around.
JD My addiction is too deeply entrenched.
JD One more thing -- all this will most definitely be a part of my pastoral counsel. I am a testimony to a process that took and continues to take ------------ TIME, hence the need for grace. It is not will worship. I did not decide to cease my addiction -- I grew disgusted enough with it that it's appetite left me. There is a certain and clearly defined passivity to the process. It has changed or transformed my nature on this matter. But it is not final. By that I mean to say -- I cannot stop with the obsessing.
JD Most recently -- the past several days "recently" -- I have grown disgusted with the harshness of my sarcasm -- so, for the time being, it is out the door as well. And I speak of perceived "harshness." The other guys (Deegan, Judy, Izzy and Miller) can continue with their brand of harshness -- but and because of the immersing, it out the door.
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Looks like it's 'played out' already Kevin and what is this vendetta against DM all about?Do you hate him JD because he speaks the truth to you? If you don't agree with him then at least raise a rational objection with a basis in scriptural or other grounds. These personal attacks are a downer - they don't edify anyone. jtOn Thu, 21 Apr 2005 04:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:JD your "immersion" is running thin.......... what happened to all your pious talk?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 4/20/2005 7:34:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is a true statement, John, but I'm not sure you understand it. I think we all have agreed previously that the one who is perfect in love does not sin.
David -- I most certainly do understand the passage. I stopped reading after two sentences, David.The first sentence reveals a continuing need to exhalt yourself at the expence of others. The second sentence show that you have little grasp on reality. Have a good evening. JD
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