Hello Blaine;
There are lots of belief systems and it takes great wisdom to navigate all of them. I believe there is truth and merits in all these systems as well as errors and problems. Fortunately for us, God is love and is great in mercy towards us. He knows we're all trying to honour and worship him and that we go by the light that we have.
From my brief sojourn into the strange realm of territorial warfare, I'vecome across fallen angels who are, for want of better terms, "spirits of religion". They are clothed in white and well meaning in that they are zealous for God's holiness and name. They are quite deceived but they think it's us who are deceived and needs correcting. I believe Mohammed met up with one. He told the Prophet that Islam and the Koran was needed to correct the abuses of Christianity. Christians were given a message of forgiveness and grace and their sinful behaviour has profaned God. Islam will be the more perfect way.
There are some others who were also told that what was given at an earlier time was not enough or got corrupted. This leaves us with an interesting dilemma. From the perspective of Group A, Group B is adding to what was revealed and intended by God and therefore falling into error. From the perspective of Group B, Group A does not have full revelation.
You could read my post and say those spirits in white that I encountered were not fallen angels but real messengers of God and that I've warred against them to the peril of my soul. You could be right. Meanwhile, I firmly believe they are fallen angels, the bane of church history, the cause of much bloodshed and disunity and I oppose them.
God have mercy on us all.
Love,
Caroline
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Subject: Re: Re: [TruthTalk] Traditional Christians--real or imaginary, or, Bap tism 4 dead?
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If there are no further revelations since 1st century AD, then all the visions David Miller has are false.
**BLAINE: Carolyn, If you want to worship DavidM, and accept his visions as a basis for religious doctrine, then please be my guest. I neither accept nor reject David's visions (I only am aware of one!), as I have not had the spirit indicate either for or against them. I will say, I do not believe DavidM is inspired by anyone but the men who taught him his brand of religion, which is the same as to say I think he stands in his own light, added to by the professors of religion who taught him. I am aware of much of what he believes and thinks, having been on TT before, and having had a number of discussions with him. He is intelligent and apparently well-educated--that is the best I can say. As for his beliefs, I believe he is more enlightened than many, except that I believe DavidH is not only smarter, but far more a child of the truth than anyone else on TT, including DavidM. As for me, I am a child of the Mormon belief system through and through. Like DavidH, I consider this system to be far superior to any other on the ear
th today. There are many churches and many doctrines and many belief systems. Some are more "intelligent" than others. There are also many enlightened people, some more "intelligent," or enlightened than others. God is the most intelligent of all, and he called upon Joseph Smith and others, knowing the calamity that was about to overtake the inhabitants of the earth. The doctrines He taught Joseph by way of angelic messengers and inspired visions/revelations of various sorts are the most "intelligent" of all--or most enlightened. There is truth about, here and there--but remember, Satan has many priesthoods. God has but one. He has revealed/restored it to men on this earth in these last days, to prepare them for the coming of His Son--just as John was sent to prepare the way in the meridian of time. But this time, the angelic messenger delivered a message for all the inhabitants of the earth--not just those in and about Jerusalem. The proselyting that must be done, therefore, is on a far grander scale. There are curren
tly about 52,000 Mormon missionaries in the field, all with the message of the restored, "everlasting gospel" to be preached to all nations, kindreds, tongues, etc. A good start, but the work is actually just beginning to gain momentum. It will continue until the "Kingdom" fills all the earth. What has DavidH done lately? (:
Surely Kevin does not believe that. Perhaps what he meant is that God will never say or do anything that will contradict what has been revealed by Jesus and the bible.
**BLAINE: Kevin believes whatever he must to make a rebuttal to whomever opposes his self-enlightened doctrines. (: Kevin, more than any other on TT, stands in his own light.
Love,
Caroline
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2005/04/28 Thu AM 12:06:35 EST
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Traditional Christians--real or imaginary, or, Baptism
4 dead?
BLAINE: It is ON-GOING REVELATION that Kevin does not believe in. His theme is, as always, that revelation ceased with the apostles' deaths. Can you or Kevin furnish me with any scripture that substantiates this false--VERY false--doctrine?
Blaine, check out Jude 3. The faith was apparently delivered "once for all".
BLAINE: Wow, that is the cat's me-ow, huh, that you came up with one little ol' scripture!! Ha! Talk about making up a doctrine based upon one teeny-tiny scripture!! But that is about the speed we see on so-called "Christian" doctrines that are, like the cheap CZ on a teenager's ring, glittery in appearance, but MANMADE!! That doctrine has one thing and only one thing going for it--it is an "easy-sell!" The discussion between you boys and DavidH says it all. 'nuf said, let's get down to reality now and admit you evangelical boys are not true Christians, 'cuz you don't believe God can intervene in the affairs of men by speaking to a prophet, to reveal his mind and will concerning current conditions. What kind of faith is that? Even the Pope admits such. You evangelicals do not actually have a leg to stand on--it is either between the Catholic Church, which claims direct-line authority from the apostles, or it is the Mormons, who claim restored authority.
"Where there is no vision, the people perish." (Proverbs 29:18)
"if any man lack wisdom, let him ask of God, who giveth to all men liberally, . . . " (James 1:5)
"and I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to all . . " (Rev. 14:6) etc, etc.
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