[TruthTalk] baptism

[Judy Taylor]

Don't have much fear of God do you Lance?  If you consider yourself to be a believer then why would you categorize Kevin as a "jerk" which is slang vernacular for a stupid or foolish person. Apparently you don't believe God means what He says in Matt 5:22.  As for a "bad reputation" - Jesus didn't have one - So is the servant be greater than his Lord?  I agree with Perry and am amazed at the time and the detail Kevin pours into these responses.  It's not good to be ashamed of Jesus and His Words.  jt From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It amazes me that could could ask this of Dave, Perry! ,at least without a 'smiley'. Kevin is a jerk and, he comes accross as one (I probably do as well) on TT. I bet he does 'on the street' also. It is such that give christianity a bad rep. He probably sees himself as 'suffering for the cause of Christ' whereas it's just the 'jerk factor' in play.   Kevin:Speaking JtoJ we ought to keep this in mind.     From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dave, >    I can't understand why you do not hang on every word Kevin posts! He > backs up all of his biblical claims with scripture references, and not just > one or two, with several to many. He backs up what he claims about the > Mormon church with statements from your own non-prophets and leaders. He has > a passion for the Lord, and quite evidently has been called to use this > passion, and his knowledge of the Word, to spread the gospel. I would expect > him to act no differently on TT than he does on the street. Just because he > does not fit your idea of what Truth Talk should be does not mean that his > exchanges are not meaningful. In fact, in terms of proclaiming the gospel to > the unsaved, Kevin is probably doing more on TT than any other poster. He > steadfastly sticks to the message, not straying into the pseudo-intellectual > realms of so many posts. Those things are often titillating and fun to > ponder, but when it comes down to it, either you believe or you don't. > > Perry > > >From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] baptism > >Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 23:46:44 -0700 > > > >DAVEH:  Nothing will make for easier discussions, IF one of the parties > >does not want to have a meaningful exchange, Kevin.  I view TT as being a > >place where two or more people of contrasting opinions can explore why > >other's believe differently.  I perceive that some TTers (such as yourself) > >are here not to have a meaningful discussion unless it results in the other > >person adopting your beliefs.  Basically, you want to use TT as a forum to > >convert people to Christianity as you  understand it...is that correct? > >Assuming so, you probably don't feel a need to find areas of common belief, > >but rather cut right to the chase and try to overwhelm your opponent with > >their error of thought/belief as you perceive it.  Have I analyzed it > >correctly, Kevin? > > > >    I harbor no illusions about changing your anti attitudes, Kevin.  But I > >am curious as to why you are as you are (and why you believe as you do), if > >that makes any sense.  It's just one of my hang-ups I suppose.   So, every > >now and then you do reveal a bit about yourself, for which I am > >appreciative.  But as I see it, you mostly put up a pretty thick wall > >hoping to wear your opponents down in their futile efforts to overcome that > >wall.  Then you try to attack their perceived soft spot, hoping for a quick > >victory. > > > >    That'll be $250 for your initial therapy session, please!   :-D > > > >Kevin Deegan wrote: > > > >>Why does it make discussions easier????? > >>  Do you mean it will disarm those rascal Anti's? > >> > >>*/Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > >> > >>     DAVEH:  I think it makes discussions much easier if common points > >>     are first found, Kevin. > >> > >>     Kevin Deegan wrote: > >> > >>>     What is this Mormon preoccupation with finding all the things we > >>>     have in common? > >>>     Why would one want to find; lets say, for example, all the things > >>>     they have in common with the devil? > >>>          So what then; after we find what we have in common? > >>> > >>>     */Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>         Charles Perry Locke wrote: > >>> > >>>>>         DAVEH:  Ohhhhhhhh....what an interesting response, Perry! > >>>>>    I must say that I do find it rather curious that you would > >>>>>         rather take a more vigorous new tack against my beliefs > >>>>>         rather than discuss issues of theology common to both of us. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>           It is not what we have in common that is the problem...it > >>>>         is what we do NOT have in common. > >>> > >>>         DAVEH:  So you have no interest in discussing theology in an > >>>         effort to see what we might believe in common?  Maybe we have > >>>         two different perspectives about TT, Perry.  I view it as a > >>>         place where people of divergent opinions can share ideas and > >>>         quiz one another about their beliefs without feeling > >>>         threatened or inviting a hard sell approach to change other > >>>         people.  I'm beginning to think you are here to do battle, so > >>>         to speak.  To you, TT merely is a place to convert people to > >>>         your way of thinking.  Am I reading you wrong on this?  If > >>>         not, then for what reason did you come to TT, Perry? > >>> > > > >-- > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Dave Hansen > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://www.langlitz.com > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >If you wish to receive > >things I find interesting, > >I maintain six email lists... > >JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, > >STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. > > > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed.  If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. >     ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org   If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed.  If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.