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Salvation being a "gift" is speaking of it in our
own "cultural context" as in children's Christmas musicals
etc.
However, if you will read scripture in balance and in
context you will find that we are to labor together with
God to "work out our own salvation with fear and
trembling" It is not anything we catch by osmosis and
just because Jesus became a man and made it does not
guarantee we will. He left us an example that we
should follow in His steps and sent the Promise to
empower us to do so.
Many are called - but "overcomers" will be the chosen
ones in the Last Day. judyt
A great verse that bolsters Paul's argument that
all Israel will be saved because God made a promise to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
I wonder.... what can we apply this verse
to? What gifts and calling have been given
to us? Salvation? gasp!
What scripture tells us to check the
culture? You watch too much TV!
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God
are without repentance. Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
That
was then (John Wesley) and, this is now (David & Kevin). These
are
quite different cultural contexts.
From: "David Miller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Caroline Wong wrote:
> > I've met
many Christians from many different churches
> > and
denominations (including Methodist/Wesleyan)
> > and never came
across a Street Preacher.
>
> The father of the
Methodist/Wesleyan tradition was John Wesley. He was a
> street
preacher who first preached outside while standing on his father's
>
grave because those of the religious establishment didn't want him
in
their
> pulpit. If it were not for street preachers, there
would be no Methodists
> or Wesleyans. I encourage you to read more
about John Wesley and his
field
> preaching. Wesley first
observed George Whitefield open air preaching and
> described it as
disorderly. Wesley seemed to think of it like some of the
>
detractors here in this forum, describing it as "almost a sin."
After
open
> air preaching for 33 years, Wesley still described
it as a cross to him,
but
> he knew his commission and could see
no other way to preach the gospel to
> every creature. The
bottomline is that God used John Wesley mightily in
> open air
preaching and he could not deny the results. Many of us have
>
similar testimonies.
>
> I grew up in the Methodist tradition
too, and I never saw someone
preaching
> outside until I was well
into my twenties. This is sad, because Jesus did
> it, the apostles
did it, it is in the Bible, and it is found in the
> tradition of
the Methodists, Salvation Army, Puritans, and even in the
> history
of evangelists like Billy Graham.
>
> Peace be with
you.
> David Miller.
>
>
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your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may
know
how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians
4:6)
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