Probably the grandest lesson ofthe biblical message is that found in the contrast of law to grace through faith and all that such includes (the failure of the law, the Incarnation, the ascension - etc.) The truth of that contrast is at the heart of your difference of opinion with Caroline and others.
Regarding Psalm 7:11 -- you press the point that David thinks or writes in this verse that God is angry a good deal of the time. That is David's opinion about God. In his legalism (David's legalism), he somehow has confidence in the wrath of God -- knowing that he (David) is beyond this wrath. Psalm 7 (in places) reveals David's arrogance. While we can argue that it is inspired as a writing, we cannot claim that it is revealed truth. There is a difference, you know, between inspiration and revelation. Look at veres 3,4,5 while you conjure up the faithfulness of Uriah to
his king. Read, again, verse 5 in contrast to Ps 51:1. Psalm 7 finds the arrogant David shouting to the Lord, "If I have done evil to a friend, stomp into the dust of the earth -- I invite your harsh judgment !!!!" In Psalm 51, David the Humble says "Have mercy on me, Oh Lord -- according to the abundance of your tender mercies." Quite a lesson for us all. The question you posed to Caroline, in my opinion, are answered as you contrast the messages of Psalm 7 and Psalm 51.
JD
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The biblical idea that God is our Father is a New Covenant consideration. Whatever old testament scripture one can quote concerning God, it must now be seen as a statement concerning the Father. It is the wrath of a father that is encountered in the new covenant age. In Christ, this father shed His blood for us -- while we were still sinners (and sinning). He does not leave that emotion behind when His emotion is one of anger or disappointment -------- no more than a father stops loving his children when they miss up their lives. In fact, some fathers love their children more in that circumstance. Grace and mercy are all the more present.
You read ALL this from that one verse, why not just take read for what it says?
I guess that is your way of saying, yes God is angry (as the verse clearly shows) everyday of every week of every year or as the question was asked? Is this not 24/7 as the question? If all we do is push God loves you than we misrepresent God, We make God look schizophrenic. I love now but I will destroy you in fire for eternity then? It has been my experience that this thinking makes people become pagans, atheists or even wink at other gods.
