JD wrote:
>More specifically, if God is the one who does the saving, something you may or may not believe, why would we even think to ask such a question?
But of course you have an opinion on the matter. You said, "you have no clue as to who is saved," which suggests that you interpret Kevin's opinion of Salvation as a wrong opinion. I was just asking why you said that.
And of course I beleive God is the one who does the saving. I'm afraid to ask, but now I wonder why you imply that I don't.
1 Cor. 2: 15-16 --But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.
He that is spiritual judgeth all things. As spiritual men and women we aren't blind and deaf, we have discerning eyes and ears. We have the Spirit, whereby we have the mind of Christ. Now, we aren't greater than our Master, we don't instruct Him, but as a child of God I am granted access to the mind of Christ.
>It is His decision and only the most arrogant would pretend to know His mind in these matters.
How can we be witnesses and ambassadors if we don't know the Master's mind?
Hebrews 10: 22-24 --Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works.
Arrogant? Well, we are to draw near in the full assurance of faith, if you want to call that arrogant. My question to you is, how can we consider one another and provoke each other unto love and good works without discernment of the Master's mind and His buisness? And I've chosen a rather tame example of "considering one another." What about needing to know the Master's mind when expelling a brother in sin from the church? Or in Mat. 18 when we rebuke a brother? Or what about John 20:23 when Jesus tells us that God will use us to let people know their sins are forgiven them?
Blessings,
Christine
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The question should be, "How do you know if someone is lost when they claim the name, give diligence to the study of the written word, practice acts of faith and dedicate their whole life to God;" a second question should be, "What gives one the right to judge another saint when their life is no better than the one they criticize (Rom 2:1)?"More specifically, if God is the one who does the saving, something you may or may not believe, why would we even think to ask such a question? It is His decision and only the most arrogant would pretend to know His mind in these matters.JD
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From: Christine Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, 17 May 2005 21:10:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation
knpraise wrote:
>How in the world can someone like>you (and those who are your bend the knee supporters) even hope to truly save the lost when >you have no clue as to who is saved?How do we know if someone is saved? I ask this sincerely.Blessings,ChristinePS- Feel free to ignore me if this is opening a can of worms or an otherwise stale topic, but I'm new to this board and genuinely curious, specifically about your comment, knpraise.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are so off base, Kevin. To imagine that one as judgmental as you would thinkyourself to be accomplishing the work of the Lord with the kind of trash that rolls offyour lips as natural as puss from an open sore is astounding. How in the world can someone likeyou (and those who are your bend the knee supporters) even hope to truly save the lost when youyou have no clue as to who is saved? You are the perfect reason why there are no churches in theCentral Valley who would even pretend to consider supporting a "street preacher." Admittedly,they (the SP) are not all bad, but you certainly give them no help. Too bad you don't work for aliving -- it would go a long way to keeping you off the street. Fortunately for you, it is notyour effort that brings you reconciliationJD
Kevin shares from the heart to Caroline:Well so long, I really do hope you get saved!
Caroline Wong <caro[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Well folks, it's been mostly fun but I've gotta go. I'm spending too much
time here and it's not good since I have to clean up my condo, put it on the
market and move in a few short weeks. Things are just too busy. So I'll bid
you all a fond farewell.
JD, Bill, it's been a real pleasure getting to know you.
Judy, Izzy, David take care of yourselves.
There are several others here that I didn't talk to as much mostly because
of time constraints. I hope things go well for you and yours.
Kevin, thanks for all the exchanges. You've sharpened me as iron sharpens
iron. From now on, I won't be afraid to tangle with any KJV toting
fundamentalist! I feel very light hearted about that. It was a season but
one that has blessed me.
Love and God Bless,
Caroline
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