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From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:31:14 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation
John wrote: > Actually, Matt 7 was addressed to all who came > to listen to the sermon, that day, And, I believe that > it was saved down through the ages for all to read. I agree, but the content of the message of Mat. 7 concerns hypocrites, those who try to get the mote out of their brother's eye and do not see the beam in their own eye. The subject matter is the hypocrite who is judging another. He instructs the hypocrite to first get the beam out of his own eye, and then what will he do after he does that? The very thing that he was prohibited to do in Mat. 7:1. John wrote: > Matt 7 is spoken to all of us and it speaks of the > judgment of right and wrong in our lives. It is > a current statement anytime we read it. > And it ties to Romans 2:1 quite nicely. Yes, it does tie in nicely, because Romans 2:1 also concerns hypocrites. He says, "FOR THOU THAT JUDGEST DOEST THE SAME THINGS." That is the definition of a hypocrite. Romans 2:1 (1) Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. John wrote: > It is harshness in judgment that is precluded > - not hypocrisy. If it were harshness alone, then Jesus would be condemned for chasing the money changers out of the Temple, or for delivering his scathing sermon like that found in Mat. 23. I do agree about an attitude being addressed here, and perhaps you mean to address that rather than harshness per se.
Jesus IS the Judge. Who else went to the Temple with the same intent? No one. He assumes that all have a beam. Anytime you judge, you must do so with that reality in mind.
It most definitely is hypocrisy to dive into the judgment of a brother without first taking into account the larger failurres that must exist in your life. Jesus had no beam -- not a speck. When He asserts that our judgment
of others will be the standard for our personal judgment, He is giving us a warning - not just
passing on information. It is a caution. And that is where the "harshness" angle comes into play. Be careful -- what you say will come back on you. ( I have no idea why my machine is double
spacing everything in this reply.)
John wrote: > For the sake of the illustration, Jesus assumes that all who > were listening to Him on that day were in need of > the lesson(s) He taught. Yes, and I teach the "Judge not" lesson often to hypocrites. You seem to forget that street preachers are the most judged individuals on the face of the earth. We like the "Judge Not" message very much.
The judgment you dish out is the judgment you receive. John wrote: > There is at least a hint of hypocrisy in all of us. > We (all) are falling short of the Glory. Bad translation, John. Sorry you can't see that.
Present Ind middle, David. 1 John 3:5 (5) And ye know that he was manifested TO TAKE AWAY OUR SINS; and IN HIM IS NO SIN. 2 Corinthians 5:21 (21) For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. John wrote: > Where in scripture are we given the charge to pass > judgment regarding eternal destiny on someone else? John 20:22-23 (22) And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: (23) Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
You are not included in this; neither am I.
Acts 8:20-21
(20) But Peter said unto him, Thy money PERISH WITH THEE, because thou hast
thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.
(21) Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not
right in the sight of God.I see the apostles as having a very different relationship with the Christ than anyone else. Peace be with you. David Miller. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
