On Tue, 24 May 2005 22:44:36 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In you statment below, you initiate your "discussion" with falsehood -- the claim that I am confused and you are not. Grade school combat tactics. Just plain silly. Why did Bill leave -- and probably Caroline and Debbie? They got of the tactic "win at all costs." You , especially, have potential, what with your eduational backgroudn (PhD and all). But you argue like a school kid. "Here's the probelm, John -- I am better than you." "Aaahh, no you're not ?" "YES I AM AM !!!' " No you're not." "Yes I am too."Where would Bill, Caroline & Debbie find such a tactic? David M checks in sporadically and obviously doesn'thave time to read a lot of what is posted to the list. IMO they left because they probably felt that their owncontribution was not appreciated as they would have liked. And why do you go on and on about the Phd thing.I never think about it and DavidM never speaks of it. If he is smart - good for him but he has never made me feelany less. May be your own inferiority complex JD and that wouldn't be from the Lord.See the second grade tactic.? David says "Oh, now I see the crux of the matter: I follow the Bible and John doe not." Great response. Perhaps intellectually challenging to some in your camp, but it is a response that avoids the conflict, builds you up in your own eyes (and Izzy's -- she will now say that I was defeat simply because you said I was confused.)In P3, you argue that you are in the apostles teaching and I am not. You do not teach justification apart from obedience to law. You do not teach Christ as a substitute for in terms of faith and righteousness. You do not believe the law to be a "burden" although Peter felt this way.We've been over and over this thing about the law JD; and your understanding is not in line with the whole counsel of God's Word. The law is not bad and it is not our enemy. The ppl under the Old Covenant were not able to keep it because of the weakness of their flesh which weakness should be overridden by the power of the Holy Spirit in our lives under the New Covenant. If you believe and teach that we can live in unbelief and unrighteousness as law breakers because of Christ then you will have to cut some scriptures out of the New Testament.You think hell in somewhere near Compton. You do not know the fdifference between the old sacrifices and the new. You consider yourself an apostles on a par with Paul and Peter !!! You tout the rationalism of your thinking and call it enlightenment. I could go on --------------------- or would you prefer discussing the issue?I think he does - I'm more concerned for the ones who embrace this all encompassing doctrine from Anasthasius and Gregory of Nyzanius (earliest seeds of the rcc) but even here you take the parts you likeWhy not embrace the Magisterial teachings and go for it?Dinner time. Look for Post II in this series, coming to your house in the near future.JD||
