Lance,
Believe me, I am trying to bring this thing to a close as quickly as I
can. I have already dispensed with our first point of contention, and am
working on the second.
Perry
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic
Method of Teac
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 13:44:56 -0400
CPL:Paaaaaalllllllllleeeeeeeeessseee leave off this harangue! Can't you get
past this? Do we need to be looking for another moderator? I ain't got a
'snowball's chance' but maybe it'd be me. Yikes!
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From: Dave
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Sent: May 28, 2005 13:40
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic
Method of Teac
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
The LIE I accused you of was making me out to be against mormons
posting on TT,
DAVEH: ??? Huh? What are you talking about, Perry?
when I have NEVER been against that. I felt that you intentionally
twisted it around, and made it appear as though I objected to your posting
mormon doctrine
DAVEH: Where did you get that notion, Perry? Either my memory is much
worse than I expected, or you are making this stuff up. And....I think the
latter is more likely in this case.
when I DO NOT AND NEVER HAVE.
DAVEH: Nor have I ever said that I think you objected to me teaching
Mormonism, or anything remotely similar. What have you been smokin',
Perry??? :-)
If you are seriously accusing me of such....dig out the quote that
supports your supposition. Until then, please quit whining and
misconstruing what I've posted. For a guy who has accused me of being
deceitful, and twisting what you've said....you seem to be creating a
mistruth in the way you've twisted this matter, Perry. Go back and read my
posts that you consider at fault and see if you didn't misinterpret what I
posted. If I am wrong...then post it for everybody to see....and I'll
apologize. If you don't find any incriminating evidence, then do you think
you might owe me an apology? Or......should we just accept your silence as
an admission of wrongly accusing me of posting something I didn't say?
I only objected to your teaching (from my perspective) and then
denying it.
The only thing left to do is for you to acknowledge that you
understand that I never objected to your posting motmon doctrine
DAVEH: ??? Why should I have to acknowledge such, when I've never
posted anything that inferred that you objected to me posting Mormon
doctrine!
or else to provide evidence to the contrary, and that the only thing I
ever objected to (from my perspective) was your denial of your teaching
mormon doctrine.
DAVEH: And for that, you called me deceitful, did you not?
Perry
From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic
Method of Teac
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:31:30 -0700
Dave,
I respect your position, and I beleive that we may have settled
our first point of contention.
While you may not consider some of your responses to be teaching
mormonism, I most whole-heartedly believe that some of it is.
When you answer questions that are asked, and even when you give
mormon references to support it, I do not think of that as "teaching" per
se. However, when you ask a Christian what he/she believes, and he/she
tells you, and THEN you counter and rebut it with mormon doctrine and
references, which you have done in the past, then you ARE teaching mormon
doctrine, no marter how subtlekly you do it.
So, I can live with that fact that you DO NOT consider that
teaching, which allows you to say that you are NOT teaching mormon
doctrine, but I will adhere to my belief that you ARE teaching mormon
doctrine when you do that.
I will set out to resolve our second point of contention in my next
post.
Perry
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses
Socratic Method of Teac
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:07:02 -0700
DAVEH: If you want to define teaching as responding to questions
about my beliefs, then you might have a point, Perry. I view it a bit
differently though. To be a teacher, one needs students. For the most
part, I don't view TTers as being students wanting to learn. Witness
Debbie's comments today....
From my LDS perspective, Teachers are to teach the gospel by
using the Word of God. As you know, for the most part....I have refrained
from posting latter-day passages on TT, excepting in specific cases when
asked to do so or it was appropriate for the discussion. As a courtesy to
TTers, I've tried to focus my discussions within the confines of the
Bible.....which in effect composes less than half of what I believe to be
Canon of Scripture. Can I teach Mormonism while ignoring much of what God
has said? Not in my opinion. If I wanted to teach Mormonism, you'd be
seeing a lot of references to our Standard Works instead of just Biblical
quotes.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave, do you sometimes teach mormon doctrine on TT?
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Pery wrote: Are you on TT to teach mormon doctrine?
DAVEH: No, Perry....as I've explained before, that was not
what motivated me to join TT, nor is it the reason I remain.
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