Lance,Furthermore, I believe it is possible for two Christians to have views of Biblical Jesus that differ. In fact, this is often the case. These differences may be based on thier own perspectives, based on what the spirit has revealed to them regarding the nature of Christ, but both views must fall within the description of Jesus and God revelaed in Scripture. I can even allow for a small degree of error on the parts of one or the other. Innocent error that comes perhaps from misinterpretation or lack of understanding, which the individual is willing to correct when shown the truth, by another, scripturally, or spiritually. There is a big difference between having a wrong idea about Jesus and having the wrong jesus.
But, take the mormon god as a counter example...this counterfeit god exhibits many of the characteristics of the god of the bible. However, I KNOW they are not the same because the mormon god was once a man who was exalted to godhood...there were many before him, and will be many after him. The God of the bible is one and only God, and there were none before Him, and there will be none after Him. This ALONE is enough to raise a red flag. We need go NO furhter to understand thaqt they are two separate g/Gods, one false and one Real.
By extension, if this mormon god had a son, the mormon jesus, he cannot be the Jesus of the Bible, even though he shares some of the characteristics of the Jesus of the Bible, simply because the Jesus of the Bible is the son of the God of the Bible, not the counterfeit son of a counterfeit mormon god.
If you and I agree that we both know David Miller from Hollywood, we might agree on many of the same things about him, that is, until we discovered that I was talking about a David Miller I know that lives in Hollywood, California. Same David Miller? What if I went further, and only mentioned those characteristics that I KNOW the two David Millers share. I could keep you thinking they were the same for a long time...especially if I redefined some words to mean something different than you think they mean. For example, we might agree that David Miller drives a Ford SUV. However, to you a Ford SUV might be an Escape, Explorer or Expedition...but I may define SUV to include old Ford station wagons, which the California DavidM drives!. There! We agree they both drive a Ford SUV!
I am sure you get the point. Mormons can talk to you all day about their god and their jesus, and they will appear the same...until you get down to the details...was always a god? How did he become a god? Where is he from?
Perry Perry
From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 06:03:47 -0700Lance, we have a standard for determining the right Jesus and the right God. It is the Bible. The mormon jesus does not match the jesus of the Bible, nor does the mormon god match the God of the Bible. If you listen only to what the missionaries, DaveH, and Blaine tell you you will think they are they same, but when you look at what their non-prophets have written, and what they actually believe, (the part people typically do not learn about until they are deep into the mormon religion) they are not the same.PerryFrom: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 05:45:32 -0400 CPL:Jus how nuanced would you make this out to be vis a vis 'the rightJesus'? Would you acknowledge that David Miller's "Jesus' was not the Jesusof Bill Taylor? IMO this is so. Should you doubt this I could call BT 'up from the dead' to so demonstrate my point. Does this 'count'? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: June 01, 2005 01:03 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH > Blaine, > > You have to have the right jesus, or it does not count. The bible is> replete with warnings not to follow false christs...written well before JS > ever invented (or was inspired by Satan to invent) the mormon jesus. It is> that simple. You have to have the right jesus. > > Perry > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH > >Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 17:19:13 EDT > > > >> >I agree, Izzy, and by now you should know that the Church of Jesus Christ> >of> >Latter-day Saints teaches enduring to the end IN CHRIST--only. You have > >unfortunately fallen under the very bad influence of those blind guides> >who > >teach the traditions and commandments of men, mixed with a few select > >scriptures > >to support their craftiness. I have a hard time believing you guys really> >believe these silly assertions that we worship JS, or anyone else than> >Jesus> >Christ. If you insist on fleeing from the true shepherd, be my guest.> >But > >read below . . . > >> >"O how marvelous are the works of the Lord, and how long doth he suffer> >with> >his people; yea, and how blind and impenetrable are the understandingsof > >the children of men; for they will not seek wisdom, neither do they desire > >that > >she should rule over them. > >Yea, they are as a wild flock which fleeth from the shepherd, and > >scattereth, and are driven, and are devoured by the beasts of the forest." > > (BoM, > >Mosiah 8:20-21) > > > >In a message dated 5/31/2005 1:16:18 PM Mountain Standard Time, > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> >No. You must endure to the end �?oin Christ�?�. Enduring to the end in> >JSmith > >doesn�?Tt cut it. Sorry. Iz > > > > > > > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ----------"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.----------"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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