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DH asks:
1. Did Jesus' ...By some, yes. Your counterpart
would be:The reindentification of 'who jesus is' by JS. One need not extend this
thinking far to conclude that either the LDS are the 'true christians' or those
that reflect the teaching of Nicea. You do see this do you not?
ONCE IT IS DEMONSTRATED THAT WE DO NOT WORSHIP, PREACH, TEACH....THE SAME
JESUS THEN, ONE OF US FOLLOWS A FALSE GOSPEL. You do see this do you not?
I would like to follow this conversation, tired or not, through to it's
conclusion, should you permit me to do so.
thanks,
Lance
Sent: June 02, 2005 01:56
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs
DaveH
DAVEH: I'm a little too slow (and too tired) to ascertain
your intended message, Lance. If you want me to understand what you are
trying to convey, put it in more simple terms for this
dunderhead.
Did Jesus' theology nullify who God is
as perceived by the Jews? As he said....he didn't come to destroy the
law, but rather fulfill it.
FWIW.......It seems to
me the Jews could say something similar to you as to what you are saying to
me.......
YOU CANNOT PREACH THE GOD YOU PREACH
AND CALL YOURSELF GOD'S CHOSEN IN ANY HISTORIC
SENSE
.............You do realize this, do you not?
Lance
Muir wrote:
DaveH:I just re-read my question(s) and, find
them rather clear. Please try telling me what YOU THINK I'm asking. Your
analogy breaks down as it has to do with Older/Newer Testaments and the
Incarnation of Christ. What you've (LDS) done is to have taken orthodox
theology and nullified it with a superceding revelation as to WHO THIS JESUS
IS. You then, answer the question posed by Jesus Himself in Lk 16
differently than every genuinely Christian group on the face of the
earth.YOU DO KNOW THAT, DON't YOU? YOU CANNOT PREACH THE JESUS YOU
PREACH AND CALL YOURSELF CHRISTIAN IN ANY HISTORIC SENSE. YOU KNOW THIS ALSO
DO YOU NOT? I fear poor old CPL might've thought I was confused as to who
you actually are. I'M NOT!!
Why not take another run at it just for my
sake.
Sent:
June 01, 2005 10:06
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH
DAVEH: I'm not exactly sure of your question,
Lance.....But as I view it, the position of many TTers is analogous to the
Jews of Bible times. In the OT, Scripture gave them a perception of
God to which the staunchly held. So firm in their convictions (as
are many TTers), they had trouble acknowledging the Lord when he finally
appeared....why....because he was more like them than they expected I
suppose. Nor did they buy into additional Scripture being added to
Canon, which is another similarity shared by TTers. Many also failed
to accept new commandments or recognize the NT prophets, rather stubbornly
holding fast to the eye for an eye prophets of the
past.
So.....is there really much difference
between the closed minds of the Jews of the Bible in contrast to the way
many TTers are receptive to anything outside what they believe Scripture
offers?
Lance Muir wrote:
Who are your teachers? What are their authorities? What 'teaching'
concerning the nature/gospel of God issues from these teachers and their
teaching sources? Just how 'ultimate' IYO is the James 1
experience?
IMO that which transpires herein (TT) is somewhat comparable to the
1st and, early centuries between the various factions who set out to
answer such questions as those concerning the canon of Scripture and,
the nature of the Person of Christ.
IMO there exists sufficient similarity between the Christ
believed/lived/preached on the part of the 'camp' of the non-Mormons for
them/us to be identified with the historic 'orthodox' wing of
Christianity. The Mormon 'camp', having taken on board supplementary
'scriptures' and, a new line of 'prophets' commencing with Joseph Smith,
cannot but fall within a 'non-orthodox' wing of Christianity.
Other than reversing my designations of orthodox/non-orthodox, just
how might you disagree with what I've said? I should much like to hear
from Dave and Blaine, along with any 'lurkers' on this.
thanks,
Lance
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