(Wo)man Oh (Wo)man (for the purpose of inclusivity) how I wish that this were not chip/block thingy. Sophmoric logic becomes you, young lady.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: June 02, 2005 18:35 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > I agree, Lance, that the Lord can and does use His > word in all its translations, including the NIV with > its errors and sodomite commitee members. I have found > that the newest generation overwhelmingly favors the > NIV translation, and when we are out preaching, many > college students by my side use the translation. These > friends of mine have led people to Christ with the NIV > Bible open in their lap. So, yes, God can and does use > the errant translations. > > But just because the Holy Spirit is able to use any > translation does not mean that any and every > translation retains merit. God can use evil for good, > as Joseph points out in Genesis 50. > > Whether or not God can use a translation doesn't clear > up a translation's flaws. > > Blessings! > > (Man. Leave your e-mail unchecked for a weekend and > the next thing you know, you've got unread e-mails up > to your eye balls. :-) ) > > --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It is wise for one to remember that the Word of God > > is Jesus Christ. It is also wise to remember that > > His (God's) Words do not return void. Take care, > > Kevin, not confuse your role with that of the Spirit > > of God. I've found God to be at work EVEN THROUGH > > THE KJV! Just imagine! > > > > Speaking of 'imagine': Imagine yourself able to see > > every believer at once on the entire globe. Imagine > > them to be lit up like a little light. Then, imagine > > yourself able to see the Bible (or portion thereof) > > they had with them. How many of them do you believe > > are carrying the KJV? Now, don't make a smart > > remark, please. Tell me what you make of that > > observation. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kevin Deegan > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: June 02, 2005 16:48 > > Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > > > > > > the work of Catholic scholars > > > > It is amazing how some can stand the facts on > > their head. > > > > The UBS text used for the Moderne Bibles: > > Jesuit cardinal Carlo Maria Martini (1927- ) is > > the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Milan. Since 1967, > > has been one of the editors of the United Bible > > Societies Greek New Testament. His diocese in Europe > > is the largest in the world, with two thousand > > priests and five million "laity." He is Professor of > > New Testament Textual Criticism at the Pontifical > > Biblical Institute in Rome. He is also President of > > the Council of European Bishop's Conferences. A Time > > magazine, article reported that Martini brought > > together a syncretistic convocation of over 100 > > religious leaders from around the world to promote a > > new age, one-world religion. In addressing this > > meeting, Mikhail Gorbachev said, "We need to > > synthesize a new religion for thinking men that will > > universalize that religion for the world and lead us > > into a new age." > > Bruce Metzger modernist and approved ROMANIST New > > Oxford Annotated Bible RSV 1973 The first edition > > 1962 was the first Protestant annotated edition of > > the Bible to be approved by a Roman authority. It > > was given an imprimatur in 1966 by Cardinal Cushing, > > Archbishop of Boston, Massachusetts > > > > HERETICS Eugene Nida is the father of the > > blasphemous dynamic equivalency theory of Bible > > translation. Nida was the Executive Secretary of the > > Translations Department of the United Bible > > Societies from 1943 to 1980. As to his view of > > biblical inspiration, Nida says, "... God's > > revelation involved limitations. ... Biblical > > revelation is not absolute and all divine revelation > > is essentially incarnational. ... Even if a truth is > > given only in words, it has no real validity until > > it has been translated into life. ... The words are > > in a sense nothing in and of themselves. ... the > > word is void unless related to experience" (Nida, > > Message and Mission, p. 222-228). > > > > Kurt Aland "This idea of verbal inspiration (i.e., > > of the literal and inerrant inspiration of the > > text), which the orthodoxy of both Protestant > > traditions maintained so vigorously, was applied to > > the Textus Receptus with all of its errors, > > including textual modifications of an obviously > > secondary character (as we recognize them today)" > > (Aland, The Problem of the New Testament Canon, > > 1962, pp. 6,7). > > > > > > BEWARE of these new versions! > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Normally when a host of scholars and translation > > committees using the most recent manuscript > > discoveries all agree against a publication that is > > nearly 300 aol years old and the work of Catholic > > scholars (save the one lone Evangleical, King > > James), common wisdom would allow for the "new" > > translation. To use the KJV to condemn all the > > others is to pretend that there is something special > > about the KJV bordiering on the inspired. Silly.. > > > > JD > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 05:53:27 -0700 (PDT) > > Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible > > Quiz > > > > > > A little poison along the way is NO PROBLEM! > > > > For those that have no discernment - ENJOY > > "Every word of God is pure" Prov. 30:5. > > The PURE Word of God???? > > (TLB) 1 Samuel 20:30: "You son of a bitch." > > NLT "stupid son of a whore." > > NJB and MSG "son of a rebellious slut" > > > > See if you can pick out the RIGHT ONE: > > RV: "Elhanan...slew Goliath the Gittite." > > ASV: "Elhanan...slew Goliath the Gittite." > > RSV: "Elhanan...slew Goliath the Gittite." > > NWT: "Elhanan...got to strike down Goliath." > > NASV: "Elhanan...killed Goliath of Gath." > > NEB: "Elhanan...killed Goliath of Gath." > > LB: "Elhanan...killed the brother of Goliath." > > GNB: "Elhanan...killed Goliath from Gath." > > NIV: "Elhanan...killed Goliath the Gittite." > > KJV: "Elhanan...slew the brother of Goliath." > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Well, He most certainly can. The message of > > grace is still there (that is where God does the > > work and you receive the blessings). The > > reconciliation of all things is still there (that's > > where God does all the work and you receive the > > blessings). Christ still died for all, even if it > > was on a stick (that is where forgiveness is > > decleared and not earned ---- God does the work > > and we receive the blessings).. > > > > Whats the problem?? > > > > JD > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Tue, 31 May 2005 17:26:51 -0700 (PDT) > > Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible > > Quiz > > > > > > How many others think God uses the Jehovah > > Witness NWT? > > > > Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Affirmative (I'd designate the appropriate > > rant but, do not know it) Including the NWT. Yes, > > indeedee doo > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kevin Deegan > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: May 31, 2005 10:18 > > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible > > Quiz > > > > > > Kenneth Taylor's Living Bible (TLB) 1 > > Samuel 20:30: "You son of a bitch." > > NLT "stupid son of a whore." > > NJB and MSG "son of a rebellious slut" > > > > Another beauty: > > TLB 1 KINGS 18:27 "Perhaps he is talking > > to someone or else is out sitting on the toilet." > > > > Then of course their is the New World > > translation that is powerfully used (Worked Thru) of > > God, right Lance? > > > > Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IFF God 'works through' the disparate > > characters on TT (IMO He Does), then > > He most assuredly 'works through' every > > translation of His Bible (I truly do > > mean every translation). It's a matter > > of those criteria that need be > > present enabling one to be superior to > > another. > > > > Do you, David, see this as analogous to > > God 'working through' your preaching > > and the bishop's? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Miller" > > To: "TruthTalk" > > Sent: May 30, 2005 15:32 > > Subject: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] NIV Bible > > Quiz > > > > > > > I received this in my inbox and > > thought some might like to take this test. > > > === message truncated === > > > > > __________________________________ > Discover Yahoo! > Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. 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