Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

[Lance Muir]

This then is your direct answer to my direct question? ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 12:45 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Ask Judith Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you happen to know for a certainty upon which mss all foreign translation are based? ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 08:22 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz You asked me not to give a smart remark. I complied. I answered as best I could since I really did not understand your question   State it more clearly & I will answer. I do not evade questions. The new bible problem exists in other languages also. There are plenty of translations based on the Textus Receptus in other languages that are the pure word of God for the people of that language. There are also corrupt bibles in those languages based on the corrupt greek text of the Jesuits Westcott & Hort    Who worships pages, covers and indexing? Looks like you are the one that needs to lighten up, how absurd! Why is it that you inteligensia always have to mischaracterize? Why not deal with the issue unless it is you who is not able to. I guess this is the best you can do given the facts. Fact is the new bibles are hopelessly corrupted.   Are far as lightening up, I will never as long as God gives me strength. I do not want to face His rebuke, for suffering FALSE Teachers! Rev 2:20 I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.   WWJD What would JUDITH do? Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is both evasive and, a non-answer. I've done the same myself multitudinous times on TT so, I can't hold your feet to the fire. However, one can't fail to notice that both Christine and yourself have no real answer for this reality. Which reality? The reality that the majority (pun intended) of believers on the globe read from a bible which is not the counterpart to the KJV. May I ask those of you (Kevin, Christine and David) who worship the pages, covers and indexing to lighten up a bit and, let God be God.  ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 02, 2005 21:23 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz The Bibles that have out & out lies and ERRORS in them can not possibly be God's word. It may say Bible, it may look like a Bible, but a FALSE WITNESS utters lies!   The Word of God is recorded in the Bible that we may know what is required of us and that we might DO IT!    Tell me what you make of that observation. Well obviously those that do not speak ENGLISH would have a Bible that is based on the Recieved text. Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It is wise for one to remember that the Word of God is Jesus Christ. It is also wise to remember that His (God's) Words do not return void. Take care, Kevin, not confuse your role with that of the Spirit of God. I've found God to be at work EVEN THROUGH THE KJV! Just imagine!   Speaking of 'imagine': Imagine yourself able to see every believer at once on the entire globe. Imagine them to be lit up like a little light. Then, imagine yourself able to see the Bible (or portion thereof) they had with them. How many of them do you believe are carrying the KJV? Now, don't make a smart remark, please. Tell me what you make of that observation. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 02, 2005 16:48 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz the work of Catholic scholars   It is amazing how some can stand the facts on their head.   The UBS text used for the Moderne Bibles: Jesuit cardinal Carlo Maria Martini (1927- ) is the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Milan. Since 1967, has been one of the editors of the United Bible Societies Greek New Testament. His diocese in Europe is the largest in the world, with two thousand priests and five million "laity." He is Professor of New Testament Textual Criticism at the Pontifical Biblical Institute in Rome. He is also President of the Council of European Bishop's Conferences. A Time magazine, article reported that Martini brought together a syncretistic convocation of over 100 religious leaders from around the world to promote a new age, one-world religion. In addressing this meeting, Mikhail Gorbachev said, "We need to synthesize a new religion for thinking men that will universalize that religion for the world and lead us into a new age." Bruce Metzger modernist and approved ROMANIST New Oxford Annotated Bible RSV 1973 The first edition 1962 was the first Protestant annotated edition of the Bible to be approved by a Roman authority. It was given an imprimatur in 1966 by Cardinal Cushing, Archbishop of Boston, Massachusetts HERETICS  Eugene Nida is the father of the blasphemous dynamic equivalency theory of Bible translation. Nida was the Executive Secretary of the Translations Department of the United Bible Societies from 1943 to 1980. As to his view of biblical inspiration, Nida says, "... God�s revelation involved limitations. ... Biblical revelation is not absolute and all divine revelation is essentially incarnational. ... Even if a truth is given only in words, it has no real validity until it has been translated into life. ... The words are in a sense nothing in and of themselves. ... the word is void unless related to experience" (Nida, Message and Mission, p. 222-228). Kurt Aland "This idea of verbal inspiration (i.e., of the literal and inerrant inspiration of the text), which the orthodoxy of both Protestant traditions maintained so vigorously, was applied to the Textus Receptus with all of its errors, including textual modifications of an obviously secondary character (as we recognize them today)" (Aland, The Problem of the New Testament Canon, 1962, pp. 6,7).   BEWARE of these new versions! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Normally when a host of scholars and translation committees using the most recent manuscript discoveries all agree against a publication that is nearly 300 aol years old and the work of Catholic scholars (save the one lone Evangleical, King James), common wisdom would allow for the "new" translation.   To use the KJV to condemn all the others is to pretend that there is something special about the KJV bordiering on the inspired.   Silly..   JD     -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 05:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz A little poison along the way is NO PROBLEM!   For those that have no discernment - ENJOY "Every word of God is pure" Prov. 30:5. The PURE Word of God???? (TLB) 1 Samuel 20:30: "You son of a bitch." NLT "stupid son of a whore." NJB and MSG "son of a rebellious slut"   See if you can pick out the RIGHT ONE: RV: "Elhanan...slew Goliath the Gittite." ASV: "Elhanan...slew Goliath the Gittite." RSV: "Elhanan...slew Goliath the Gittite." NWT: "Elhanan...got to strike down Goliath." NASV: "Elhanan...killed Goliath of Gath." NEB: "Elhanan...killed Goliath of Gath." LB: "Elhanan...killed the brother of Goliath." GNB: "Elhanan...killed Goliath from Gath." NIV: "Elhanan...killed Goliath the Gittite." KJV: "Elhanan...slew the brother of Goliath." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, He most certainly can.   The message of grace is still there  (that is where God does the work and you receive the blessings).   The reconciliation of all things is still there  (that's where God does all the work and you receive the blessings).  Christ still died for all, even if it was on a stick  (that is where forgiveness is decleared and not earned  ----  God does the work and we receive the blessings)..    Whats the problem??   JD    -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tue, 31 May 2005 17:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz How many others think God uses the Jehovah Witness NWT? Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Affirmative (I'd designate the appropriate rant but, do not know it) Including the NWT. Yes, indeedee doo ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 31, 2005 10:18 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Kenneth Taylor's Living Bible (TLB) 1 Samuel 20:30: "You son of a bitch." NLT "stupid son of a whore." NJB and MSG "son of a rebellious slut"   Another beauty: TLB 1 KINGS 18:27 "Perhaps he is talking to someone or else is out sitting on the toilet."   Then of course their is the New World translation that is powerfully used (Worked Thru) of God, right Lance? Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: IFF God 'works through' the disparate characters on TT (IMO He Does), then He most assuredly 'works through' every translation of His Bible (I truly do mean every translation). It's a matter of those criteria that need be present enabling one to be superior to another. Do you, David, see this as analogous to God 'working through' your preaching and the bishop's? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "TruthTalk" Sent: May 30, 2005 15:32 Subject: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > I received this in my inbox and thought some might like to take this test. > I think we may have posted this some years back on TruthTalk. > David Miller. > > ------------------- > NIV BIBLE QUIZ > > INSTRUCTIONS: > Using the New International Version� Bible (NIV), > answer the foll owing questions. Do not rely on your > memory. As the Bible is the final authority, you must > take the answer from the NIV Bible verse (Not from > footnotes but from the text. Footnotes are not the Bible.). > > 1. Fill in the missing words in Matthew 5:44. "Love your enemies, ________ > them that curse you, _____________ to them that hate you, and pray for them > that __________ and persecute you." > 2. According to Matthew 17:21, what two things are required to cast out this > type of devil? > 3. According to Matthew 18:11, why did Jesus come to earth? > 4. According to Matthew 27:2, what was Pilate's first name? > 5. In Matthew 27:35, when the wicked soldiers parted His garments, they were > fulfilling the words of the prophet. Copy what the prophet said in Matthew > 27:35 from the NIV. 6. In Mark 3:15, Jesus gave the apostles power to cast > out devils and to: > 7. According to Mark 7:16, what does a man need to be able to h ear? > 8. According to Luke 7:28, what was John? (teacher, prophet, carpenter, > etc.). What is his title or last name? > 9. In Luke 9:55, what did the disciples not know? > 10. In Luke 9:56, what did the Son of man not come to do? According to this > verse, what did He come to do? > 11. In Luke 22:14, how many apostles were with Jesus? > 12. According to Luke 23:38, in what three languages was the superscription > written? > 13. In Luke 24:42, what did they give Jesus to eat with His fish? > 14. John 3:13 is a very important verse, proving the deity of Christ. > According to this verse (as Jesus spoke), where is the Son of man? > 15. What happened each year as told in John 5:4? > 16. In John 7:50, what time of day did Nicodemus come to Jesus? > 17. In Acts 8:37, what is the one requirement for baptism? > 18. What did Saul ask Jesus in Acts 9:6? > 19. Write the name of the man mentioned in Acts 15:34. > 20. Study Acts 24:6- 8. What would the Jew have done with Paul? What was the > chief captain's name? What did the chief captain command? > 21. Copy Romans 16:24 word for word from the NIV. > 22. First Timothy 3:16 is perhaps the greatest verse in the New Testament > concerning the deity of Christ. In this verse, who was manifested in the > flesh? > 23. In the second part of First Peter 4:14, how do [they] speak of Christ? > And, what do we Christians do? > 24. Who are the three Persons of the Trinity in First John 5:7? > 25. Revelation 1:11 is another very important verse that proves the deity of > Christ. In the first part of this verse Jesus said, "I am the A__________ > and O___________ , the _________ and the _______:" > > Conclusion: Little space is provided for your answers, but it's much more > than needed. If you followed the instructions above, you not only failed the > test, you receive a big goose egg. So now what do you think of your > " ac curate, easy-to-understand, up-to-date Bible"? If these 25 questions > haven't served to show you that the NIV is a very inferior Bible, based on a > very inferior Greek text, write me and I'll make up another quiz with 25 > more questions, or 250, if you wish; but you will still flunk the text. If > you would like to improve your score, and in fact score 100%, you can take > this test using the Authorized (King James) Bible . > by Rex L. Cobb > > NIV Reader: Do you have enough confidence in the NIV to... > tell God, OUT LOUD, that the NIV is correct in deleting > these words (64,098 words to be exact) & phrases? > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you hav e a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. Do You Yahoo!? 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