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Now? May we leave it now?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 09, 2005 09:34
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Wherein does
the 'Truth' reside??????
The arts are not a "sore point" for me Lance; they are just alien to
Truth, that's all. Isn't the word hypocrite
rooted in the idea of the mask worn by actors in the Greek
tragedies? So what is new under the sun? If I am
looking for light, I don't go scavenging around in the darkness but
others can do as they choose. jt
I do understand that the 'arts' is a sore point
for you, Judy.
Lance, have you never pondered on the fact that Israel had no "arts"
spatial or otherwise; and no entertainments or amusements. You would think
God would have instructed the Levites to perform little skits and things
to help them to understand what He was telling them wouldn't you?
How could He expect them to stand out there every 7yrs and just hear His
Law read to them??
No need for sorrow, Judy. Neither do I wish
for you to trust MY judgment on anything. Be comfortable trusting your
own judgment, under God.
Entertainment - or a-muse-ment;
Sorry Lance - I don't trust your judgment regarding what God
is comfortable with. jt
God, IMO, is comfortable with you being a
cultural luddite so relax on the 'entertainment'
front.
Why of course Lance, these are the
ppl who are epistemologically the same as you, so why not?
On another note. Yesterday there was an interview with the
late Ann Bancroft in our local paper and when asked to explain her
ability to play such diverse roles, she told the Virginian-Pilot
in 2001 "To be an actress, you have to be a liar" - so there you
are. Why waste God's time watching and quoting 'good
liars?'
Within the 'Three-Personed God'. It
is 'mediated' to us by The Spirit' through The Scriptures.
Humankind (women/men) must speak of that which we come to
believe (Truth).We are not the final arbiters. What indeed is 'A
Proper Confidence'? On TT, I saw it (epistemological humility)
best exemplified in Bill, Caroline and Debbie.
We do not decide upon a Truth. You do, we don't.
The Holy Spirit leads us into ALL Truth.
Your doctrines are repugnant
You are the personification of them and therefore have
not come to a settling of what is and what aint!
The Bible decides upon a Truth, we align ourselves to it.
You align to your own ideas.
You have no final authority, other than yourself.
Every way of a man is right in
his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the
hearts. We have
also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that
ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place,
until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your
hearts[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
When we decide upon a "truth," finalize that in
our mind and even institutionalize the concept, we close the
door to further examination. With that door
closed, we are shut off from amending our point of
view. We stop growing and declare to all who will
listen, "I have arrived by the grace of God, of
course." On the occasion that we
institutionalize the matter, we close the door for
re-examination to all others -- a kind of
excathedra statement. The evangelical church has
done this with her doctrine of
"inspiration." It has so formalized the teaching
as to make it even dangerous to openingly disuss other
possiblities to "verbal and plenary." A
disciple, new to the faith of the Evangelicals, must
quickly learn what can be questioned and what cannot if
he/she is to remain within the fellowship.
Perhaps this is true in the high church as
well -- I do not know.
JD
-----Original
Message----- From: Kevin Deegan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
[email protected]Sent: Wed, 8 Jun 2005
11:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Apocrypha
JD Paul is surely NOT against knowing but
knowing that is final
So you say.
Then I can never really know if what you are saying
even now is true.
Why are you always looking to talk people out of
knowing the truth?
Do you want them to end up like you, questioning
everything?
Or so you can then become the one (the authority) to
point them in to the way right behind you?
Prov 22 That I might make
thee know the certainty of the words of truth; that
thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send
unto thee
Maybe that is why you struggle with addictions.
JN 8:32 And ye shall
know the truth, and the truth shall make you
free.
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wrote:
It has occurred to me that if we speak and write with
the view in mind that we at the beginning of another day
of learning, our hearts and minds will be more open
to what God has instore. Perhaps our doctrinal
statements should not be "as if written n
stone.' But reflective of the growth that will
begin again with the start of a new day.
We would do less fighting and more growing.
That is what I Cor 8:1-3 is saying,
---- is it not? Paul is surely NOT
against knowing but knowing that is final, a closed
systems of knowledge.
Jd
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