No I am NOT saying that.
God said it.
Hos 4:1 the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land.
Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?
IS 59:2 your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
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Kevin Deegan wrote:DAVEH: ??? You are losing me on that, Kevin. Are you saying that as an LDS, I can't feel the presence of the Lord?Maybe I'm too idealistic, but I would like to think Christians can feel at home when in the presence of each other. Where the saints are, there also will be found the spirit of the Lord. At least that's what I believe. Do you feel similar?
That is the problem you are a "Latter Day Saint" not a Christian.
Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?Eph 5:11 have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.Judy Taylor wrote:DAVEH: But should it exist in an a Christian setting?Dave Hansen wrote:
I suppose there is a zoo-like atmosphere here. And as an outsider, it is certainly interesting to view the home life of real Christians, so to speak. One thing I've realized is that if I were ever to leave Mormonism, TT Christianity is the last place I'd seek refuge. In a perverse way, it's a fun place to visit, but not a place I'd want to make camp.DaveH - there is a "zoo-like" atmosphere in the market place also, it is this way anywhere there are people
DAVEH: When I used the home life analogy, I knew it was a poor choice of words that would be misunderstood. That is why I qualified it with the so to speak comment. Maybe I'm too idealistic, but I would like to think Christians can feel at home when in the presence of each other. Where the saints are, there also will be found the spirit of the Lord. At least that's what I believe. Do you feel similar?- but you don't get to view a person's home life on an internet list DaveH - that is a bit of a stretch.
So Judy....Do you feel the spirit of the Lord in TT? If not....why not? Do you think it is because Mormons are here? Do you think the spirit of the Lord would permeate this Forum if the Mormons were to leave? If not, just what do you think it would take to persuade the Lord to become a part of TT?
DAVEH: As I tried to explain above, I think you misunderstood my on this.In fact most of the ppl who write to TT guard their personal and home lives to a fault. You may hear what they are mulling over in the way of belief but you don't see what they do in the privacy of their homes, or how they treat members of their families which would be how they live.
DAVEH: That is another peculiar (to me) trait shared by many TTers. Seems to me that quite a few of you eschew organized religion, viewing it as more of a problem than a solution. Yet I see too much independence in religious determination (yowee....that may be awkward....perhaps I should have said thought) as being dangerous. This may seem strange, but I think a lot of the problems of TT are caused by relying too much on intellectualism. IOW....some folks here think they can base their belief on what they understand the Bible to say rather than faith. If for some reason it can be shown that their understanding of a particular doctrine or passage is in error, then their whole belief is threatened. Hence they tenaciously hang onto their perceived beliefs for fear of being sucked into the pit by Satan. Hmmmmmmm........I think I'm rambling now....sorry.....As for "camping here" (on TT) I would agree, in fact I don't want to camp anyplace in this old world of sin and shame;
DAVEH: I'm sure you do, Judy. And I do appreciate your concern for my eternal welfare. However....whose brand of the truth do you think I should follow? Yours....Lance's....Perry's....Kevin's....DavidM's.....John's???personally I am looking for a city not made by hands. For your own sake I do pray you will leave Mormonism and embrace the truth of the gospel
DAVEH: I'd feel a little better if all the witnesses were on the same page.for it's own sake and not because of what you observe in any person whether or not they call themselves Christian because we are called to be witnesses
DAVEH: I've got the feeling Kevin's image differs from that of some of the other TTers. So far, I haven't heard any TTers reveal the image of Jesus as I perceive him, nor one I find appealing. But I'm sure most TTers consider my LDS biases to be the problem there.even before God who works in us completes His work of conforming us to the image of Christ. jt-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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