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Sent: June 20, 2005 09:15
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Seeming
inconsistancy
Holier than thou attitude eh Lance? I have not
"villified" anything so far. What I am doing is challenging your belief
system which is what this list is all about. OTOH you
frequently criticize and challenge ppl over
who they are which is much, much, worse. If your sacrosanct
"incarnational doctrine" is too holy to be up front and open in the light
of day - then keep it secret. I don't have time to be chasing down all of your theologians and buying their
books. I already have THE BOOK and it's safer to stick with the
Word Himself. jt
So Judy, you had to wait for this to commence
identifying 'holes'? Just acknowledge the truthfulness of this and, we'll
move on. Why do I ask? IMO you've no idea at all what this 'incarnational
system' is and, you breathed a sigh of relief at my having provided you with
an opening.
Look Judy, I'm quite prepared to move on should
you wish not to speak of this further. However, when you villify something
that is important to me and, with such certainty on your part, I assume
you've actually got something to say. IFF you do not then, kindly refrain
from so speaking.
First hole Lance, you will not find an "eternally
preexisting SON" in scripture. He is the Word of God ie "In the
beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was
God" In Proverbs He is the Wisdom of God .. and in other places "the
angel of His Presence" He was the Rock that followed Israel in the
Wilderness and no mention of Him being the "eternal preexisting son"
there. So who declared this to be so? At the end in the book of
Revelation He is called the Lamb and The Word. So the root of
this belief is in rcc creeds. jt
The Son of God, eternally preexisting, took
on, via an act of the Holy Spirit in His mother, Mary (virginal
conception) humanity so as to Redeem us. Now, if not true, that's what
I'd call 'science fiction'!
Lance Muir wrote:
Earth to Terry:It is no more GOOFY than
the Christian understanding of the Incarnation.That (the
Incarnation) were it not real and absolutely true is the stuff of
science
fiction.
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If
you would give me your definition of incarnation, I might be able to
grasp what you are saying.
Terry