Lance Muir wrote:

'Protestantism' Dave, was not the only 'Christian' perspective. There is and
was at the time of JS, Orthodoxy, Catholicism and many groups independent of
both of the foregoing. JS's experience with christianity entailed only
protestantism did it not? Did he claim that all of christianity, globally,
had, as it were, fallen into a state of disrepair?
DAVEH: Yes, that is somewhat correct. My interest focuses on Protestantism because of it's Catholic roots.

Because of our conversation of a week ago regarding James 1 entailing
prayer, the 'spirit' & experience; I believe that you are operating with a
level of functional certitude that, naturally speaking, is disabling.

DAVEH: That's not been in question, except by those who think I am a target while on TT and subject to their persuasive arguments to get me away from Mormonism. Is there anybody currently on TT who thinks I will be swayed from my LDS leanings by another TTer?

IFF
you WILL NOT HEAR, even though God's Spirit were to 'speak', then where do
we go from here?
DAVEH: Nothing has changed from my perspective, Lance. I will continue gleaning a nugget or two as it passes under my nose. I'm not here to change anybody, so I won't be disappointed if TTers don't side with me on anything doctrinal.

Where the anti-Mormons go is up to them. Seems like they are on a dead end road. They must surely realize they are not going to convert me. Nor am I going to let them sucker punch me. And I would think spreading false information is sullying their reputation more than it is promoting their message.. As for other TTer such as yourself.....what do you want to know about me or my beliefs. If you have no interest, then there is no problem. If you want to know something from me....just ask......and I will do the same as I think of questions to ask you. Does that seem reasonable, Lance?


----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: June 19, 2005 16:06
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief


Charles Perry Locke wrote:

DAVEH:  As I see it, you've cut short your ability to see beyond the
Bible, Perry.  You apparently see the The Bible as being enough, yet
I think presents unasked questions that many Protestants (and TTers)
seem to want to avoid pondering.  I just don't feel comfortable with
such a limited perspective.
 The Bible IS enough, Dave.
DAVEH:  If the Bible is enough for you, that's your prerogative, Perry.
But it leaves me with some questions that I believe are answered by
revelation beyond the Bible.  Do you ever ponder theological questions
that aren't answered by traditional doctrines, Perry?

The Bible contains prophecy that sees through to the end, way beyond
when it was written. So, why would anything more be needed?
DAVEH:  Because there seem to be some really important questions that
seemingly are not answered by Protestantism..

It has served its intended purpose for thousands of years without the
musings of JS, and will continue to server that purpose until the end
of all things.
DAVEH:  For those who want to turn off the spirit of revelation, the
Bible's purpose is somewhat limited.  I believe the message of the Bible
implores us to expect more to be revealed from above.

It is the mormons that have itching ears and seek the doctrines of man
(specifically JS), to turn a phrase. Enjoy it, Dave.
DAVEH:   And I do enjoy it, Perry.   Perhaps that is why I feel
comfortable with my LDS beliefs.

That's as good as it gets.

Perry
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