Perry, when I started reading posts tonight after getting home there were
155 of them--I just hadn't gotten that far yet! Izzy

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Izzy, I posted it an hour or so ago. if you still have it, look at the last 
post I made with subject "RE: [TruthTalk] Who is he?". let me know if you 
deleted it and I will send it to you.

Perry

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>Okay, Perry, I'll give it a go, even though I have not received any Ramah
>understanding I am sure.  To me "He" who believes means "Whoever" believes.
>And come to think of it, and is "baptized" must mean in the Holy Spirit,
>rather than water, because the thief on the cross surely wasn't water
>baptized but he did have the Holy Spirit within to help him enter into
>understanding that Jesus was the true Son of God.  So what has the Lord
>shown you? (I can't wait to hear) Izzy
>
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>John, thanks for responding. Jesus indeed spoke v. 16, but to whom was
>Christ referring when he used "He"?
>
>    Any other TT'rs care to give thier insight to these questions? I know
>this does not appear to raise any controversy, so hasn't generated much
>interest, but where I am going with this may step on so many toes that it
>may become controversial. Of course, maybe everyone already understood this
>but me, and the Spirit was just bringing me up to speed!
>
>    The reason that I am asking is that quite late the other night I had a
>stroke of insight into the meaning of v. 16 that was totally different than
>I previously understood. Did this come to me through the Spirit? Well, I DO
>pray often that the Spirit will give me insight into the Word of God, and
>that I will see and understand it correctly. I believe that is what 
>happened
>
>to change my understanding of this verse.
>
>    After coming to this new understanding, I gave it the "sleep on it" 
>test,
>
>and it survived. upon re-reading the passage it still meant the same thing
>to me the next morning.
>
>    A lot of people may disagree with me because it refutes a major
>proof-text used by many. (Not that their point may not be made elsewhere,
>but definitely not here in v. 16.) There is a secondary use of v 16-20 as
>another prooftext that also will be refuted. This is very rich indeed.
>
>    I wanted to present this to my Christian peers on TT, to see what the
>consensus is. I want to hear from as many as have the time to read and give
>their understanding, then I will present it as I now understand it. If the
>spirit has indeed lead me into truth it will be interesting.
>
>Perry
>
>
>
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> >Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:31:59 -0400
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> >1.  Christ
> >2.  Water
> >
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> >From: Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >Sent: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:35:41 -0700
> >Subject: [TruthTalk] Who is he?
> >
> >
> >I have been studying Mark 16:14-20, and have two open questions for all 
>TT
> >members.
> >
> >1. In verse 16, who is the antecedant to the pronoun "He" that starts out
> >that verse?
> >2. Again, in verse 16, what type of baptism is Jesus discussing here?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Perry
> >
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