Perry, when I started reading posts tonight after getting home there were 155 of them--I just hadn't gotten that far yet! Izzy
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Who is he? Izzy, I posted it an hour or so ago. if you still have it, look at the last post I made with subject "RE: [TruthTalk] Who is he?". let me know if you deleted it and I will send it to you. Perry >From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Who is he? >Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:33:21 -0500 > >Okay, Perry, I'll give it a go, even though I have not received any Ramah >understanding I am sure. To me "He" who believes means "Whoever" believes. >And come to think of it, and is "baptized" must mean in the Holy Spirit, >rather than water, because the thief on the cross surely wasn't water >baptized but he did have the Holy Spirit within to help him enter into >understanding that Jesus was the true Son of God. So what has the Lord >shown you? (I can't wait to hear) Izzy > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke >Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:06 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is he? > >John, thanks for responding. Jesus indeed spoke v. 16, but to whom was >Christ referring when he used "He"? > > Any other TT'rs care to give thier insight to these questions? I know >this does not appear to raise any controversy, so hasn't generated much >interest, but where I am going with this may step on so many toes that it >may become controversial. Of course, maybe everyone already understood this >but me, and the Spirit was just bringing me up to speed! > > The reason that I am asking is that quite late the other night I had a >stroke of insight into the meaning of v. 16 that was totally different than >I previously understood. Did this come to me through the Spirit? Well, I DO >pray often that the Spirit will give me insight into the Word of God, and >that I will see and understand it correctly. I believe that is what >happened > >to change my understanding of this verse. > > After coming to this new understanding, I gave it the "sleep on it" >test, > >and it survived. upon re-reading the passage it still meant the same thing >to me the next morning. > > A lot of people may disagree with me because it refutes a major >proof-text used by many. (Not that their point may not be made elsewhere, >but definitely not here in v. 16.) There is a secondary use of v 16-20 as >another prooftext that also will be refuted. This is very rich indeed. > > I wanted to present this to my Christian peers on TT, to see what the >consensus is. I want to hear from as many as have the time to read and give >their understanding, then I will present it as I now understand it. If the >spirit has indeed lead me into truth it will be interesting. > >Perry > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is he? > >Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:31:59 -0400 > > > >1. Christ > >2. Water > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:35:41 -0700 > >Subject: [TruthTalk] Who is he? > > > > > >I have been studying Mark 16:14-20, and have two open questions for all >TT > >members. > > > >1. In verse 16, who is the antecedant to the pronoun "He" that starts out > >that verse? > >2. Again, in verse 16, what type of baptism is Jesus discussing here? > > > >Thanks, > >Perry > > > >---------- > >"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > >know how you ought to answer every man." 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