RE: [TruthTalk] liberal churches are dying (dead!)

[ShieldsFamily]

I realize that is what JD thinks.  (How can anyone be so wrong so often???) Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:30 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] liberal churches are dying (dead!)   Linda, This is the context cut and pasted from the original; JD is saying that rather than a "finished work" the cross is a foundational work in our creation process that is commonly called "incarnation"  judyt   JD: I believe that the creation process begun in the Garden was to be completed in each of us as the Spirit indwells, placing us into God's community and into the community of those being saved  -  all as a result of the foundational work He committed to on our behalf with His birth, life , death nd resurrection  (commonly called "incarnation")   jt: Creation is/was not a "process" JD. God spoke the worlds into existence.  He just says "let there be" and "there is" The first man Adam wasn't just half baked before the fall. He was complete and held the "image of God" which he lost when he fell. Also where do you get that the cross is a 'foundational work?'  He is a "once for all sacrifice" and the  cross is a "finished work"      On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:42:24 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Linda  -  there was a context in which Judy used this passage  --  in that context  (Judy's)  I disagree. JD    From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] JD are you saying you really don?t believe even this??? Izzy   Heb 10: 10By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.    11And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:    12But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;    13From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.    14For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.     jt:  He is a "once for all sacrifice" and the  cross is a "finished work"    JD: I do not agree with any of this.