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From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:28:14 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 8:1
John wrote to DaveH: >>> I have yet to see any accepted doctrine >>> effected [sic] by textual problems. Judy wrote: >> YOU LEFT OF THE OTHER HALF OF THE >> VERSE - THERE IS A CONDITION JD John wrote to Judy: > The "new translation" is the NASV. > Walking after the Spirit is not in the verse, IMO LOL. So do you still think that doctrine accepted by Judy is not affected by textual problems? She tries to make her case by pointing to a specific part of the text, only to have you respond that the text she points toward is not in your modern version of the Bible.
Actually, David, you do no better a job at reading my posts than does Judy. Please go back and see
what is written after words to the effect "and even if it did ....................." I deal with her
argumentation straight up with comments about Romans 8:5.
Perhaps what you meant to say is that you don't see where any doctrine that you accept is affected by textual problems. However, we must assume that the doctrine you accept is based upon the corrupted modern texts, which means, of course, that you are employing circular reasoning. All this jibber because you did not bother to carefully read my posted reply !!! John wrote: > but even if it were, HOLY MOLY - HERE IT IS - RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSE 8:5 defines walking in the spirit > as a state of mind -- not a physical activity -- > not obedience. Nothing wrong with obedience --- > but we are saved by faith. Works come after faith, > not before. Romans 8:5 defines the state of mind of those who walk in the spirit. It does teach that walking in the spirit is only a state of mind! PREACH IT BROTHER AND AMEN. MY POINT EXACTLY. Read Romans 7, John. Walking in condemnation has to do with doing things contrary to the mind of the Spirit. Romans 8 illuminates us to the idea that if we mind the things of the Spirit and have faith in Christ, we will walk in the Spirit, meaning that works follow faith, just as you say. Therefore, when we walk in the Spirit, we will not experience the condemnation talked about in Romans 7, which comes from doing those things that you don't want to do. Our state of mind and our faith determines how we live. WELL, THIS LAST SENTECE IS MOST AGREEABLE. ROMANS 7:14 FF AND EPH 4:20-24 AND ROMANS 3:23
AND 1 JO 1:8 ALL MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THERE IS A TWO NATURED DUALISM (A CONTINUING CONFLICT). tHE JUDGMENT
FACTOR IS RESOLVED AS GOD LOOKS TO OUR HEART/MIND. OUR LIFE ACTUALLY IMPROVES, GETS BETTER, WE BECOME
WHAT GOD HAD IN MIND AS THE PRACTICE OF RIGHTEOUSNES FLOWS FROM A SPIRIT CENTERED MIND TO THE
EVERYDAY ACTIVITIES OF LIVING OUR LIVES. AT LEAST, THAT IS WHAT I BELEIVE AND TEACH. Peace be with you. David Miller. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
