Could it be that "7" is the number of "completeness" or "perfection" and the seven spirits has little to do with a head count and more to do with that which is holy, perfect and complete -- hence the "the seven spirits of God." Just asking.
JD
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From: Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:29:48 -0700
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
Sure does, Terry, But check out Rev 1:4, 3:1, 4:5, and 5:6. It mentions 7 spirits of God!
>From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
>Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:03:59 -0500
>
>Not sure, Perry. It depends on how you count, I guess. My answer would be >one, who can be multiple. Though He resides in the hearts of millions, I >do not see Him as millions of Spirits. That make any sense?
>
>
>Charles Perry Locke wrote:
>
>>Terry, how many spirits do you think God has?
>>
> >Perry
>>
>>>From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
>>>Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:09:51 -0500
>>>
>>>Judy Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:10:26 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>>
>>>> It does not appear that we are talking about just the eternal
>>>> Sonship of Christ -- but something that is bigger and even
>>>> more imp ortant. Judy, please be careful, here, that in your
>>>> zeal to disagree with me that you are not misrepresenting your
>>>> own beliefs.
>>>> jt: I agree with the statement above JD
>>>> My belief is that our disagreement most likely goes all the
>>>> way back to the council of Nicea in May 325AD where they
>>>> eventually agreed to *redefine God* using a Greek word that is
>>>> totally unscriptural - For this reason they had problems
>>>> getting complete agreement - but the "Berean" bishops finally
>>>> caved. This word *"homoousion"* or substance >>>>in the Nicean creed
>>>> states that the son is one substance with the Father and the
>>>> Spirit is the same substance also from where they get the
>>>> procession. Since God is a Spirit this makes no sense at
&g t;>>> all; what is it supposed to mean? Maybe DavidM would be
>>>> better able to explain it with his background in biology but
>>>> it makes no sense to me at all. >>>>============================================================================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Anyone who claims to fully understand the Godhead is a couple of bricks >>>short of a load, but as everyone does, I have an opinion, or better >>>stated, a question. It is this. Why can we all readily agree that the >>>Holy Spirit can reside in millions of believers all over the world, but >>>that God, the Father, is limited to being on the throne in Heaven. Since >>>the Bible itself proclaims that both are Spirits, cannot they both be in >>>many places at once? Let me even stretch that a bit. Can the Spirit of >>>the Father not be the Holy Spirit and at the same time be God the Father >>& gt;AND Jesus, the Christ? It seems to me that if our God is one God, and >>>yet is plural, that this is how it must be. God can reside in me and in >>>some Christian in China or Russia and still be the Father and the Son and >>>the Holy Spirit. I am in Christ and Christ is in me and at the same time >>>I am filled with the Holy Spirit. Anything short of that would be to set >>>limits on the power of God.
>>>
>>>If I am all wet, somebody explain to me what I am missing.
>>>Terry
>>>
>>
>>
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>From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
>Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:03:59 -0500
>
>Not sure, Perry. It depends on how you count, I guess. My answer would be >one, who can be multiple. Though He resides in the hearts of millions, I >do not see Him as millions of Spirits. That make any sense?
>
>
>Charles Perry Locke wrote:
>
>>Terry, how many spirits do you think God has?
>>
> >Perry
>>
>>>From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
>>>Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:09:51 -0500
>>>
>>>Judy Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:10:26 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>>
>>>> It does not appear that we are talking about just the eternal
>>>> Sonship of Christ -- but something that is bigger and even
>>>> more imp ortant. Judy, please be careful, here, that in your
>>>> zeal to disagree with me that you are not misrepresenting your
>>>> own beliefs.
>>>> jt: I agree with the statement above JD
>>>> My belief is that our disagreement most likely goes all the
>>>> way back to the council of Nicea in May 325AD where they
>>>> eventually agreed to *redefine God* using a Greek word that is
>>>> totally unscriptural - For this reason they had problems
>>>> getting complete agreement - but the "Berean" bishops finally
>>>> caved. This word *"homoousion"* or substance >>>>in the Nicean creed
>>>> states that the son is one substance with the Father and the
>>>> Spirit is the same substance also from where they get the
>>>> procession. Since God is a Spirit this makes no sense at
&g t;>>> all; what is it supposed to mean? Maybe DavidM would be
>>>> better able to explain it with his background in biology but
>>>> it makes no sense to me at all. >>>>============================================================================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Anyone who claims to fully understand the Godhead is a couple of bricks >>>short of a load, but as everyone does, I have an opinion, or better >>>stated, a question. It is this. Why can we all readily agree that the >>>Holy Spirit can reside in millions of believers all over the world, but >>>that God, the Father, is limited to being on the throne in Heaven. Since >>>the Bible itself proclaims that both are Spirits, cannot they both be in >>>many places at once? Let me even stretch that a bit. Can the Spirit of >>>the Father not be the Holy Spirit and at the same time be God the Father >>& gt;AND Jesus, the Christ? It seems to me that if our God is one God, and >>>yet is plural, that this is how it must be. God can reside in me and in >>>some Christian in China or Russia and still be the Father and the Son and >>>the Holy Spirit. I am in Christ and Christ is in me and at the same time >>>I am filled with the Holy Spirit. Anything short of that would be to set >>>limits on the power of God.
>>>
>>>If I am all wet, somebody explain to me what I am missing.
>>>Terry
>>>
>>
>>
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