Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ

Fri, 01 Jul 2005 07:34:35 -0700

What happened here?   I did not line-out anything and it does not appear that anyone else did.  Advice? 
 
JD 
 
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ

Linda  --  you are kidding, of course !!!???   Let's just say that you and I completely agree of the term "lost."   And kevin even agrees.     Your question below implies a blatant uncaring about those of the "lost" that did not respond to the Message.   Our preaching of the Gospel should never offer those who reject that message good reason to walk away.   Those , whether SP or evangelist  -  who belittle and humiliate and make fun --  are giving reasons OTHER THAN THE HEARING OF THE "TRUTH" TO WALK AWAY.   I have proven, beyond any shadow of doubt, perhaps to a scientific certainty  *whatever that is) that people who are belittled and insulted will close their minds to any other consideration.  It may not be their only reasoning for rejection  --  but their bias will most definitely be effected by such negativism.  When did I do this?   RIGHT HERE IN GOTHAM CITY, folks !!!!    Being the converted red-neck that I am,  I watched for months while my "liberal" friends  -- people who were actually giving me something to think and pray about -- while my "liberal friends" here on TT were insulted and humiliated and judged with nearly every post form some  --  you know, back in the glory days when we did such things on TrashTalk  USA.   And I thought to myself  -- what is Lance's, Deb's, Bill's problem.  As a red-neck - an educated Okie  -   pos sessed the best of both worlds  -----the ability to understand and be excited about conceptual considerations AND the creativity, sarcasm and fight of an everyday run of the mill Okie, I saw no point in "accepting" those insults and judgments.    The "peace thing,"  like you and kevin,  I have a hard time with that  --  a "liberal cornerstone."   In my old nature, fighting regardless of the forum is kinda fun.   Me and Easu, the bean eater, would have probably been pals...... I would not have liked Samson, except for his luggage, of course.  David the King  --  would have been one of my heros as well.   Anyway  -  so this self described Okie decided to join the fray.   "I can d o sa rcasm  -- kevin and linda just think they can."   Such was my attitude and decision.  But it became the central theme of nearly everything I wrote.   And the fun of it all slipped away.....   "growth" is to blame, I hope.  Anyway, there are many things that separate kev, you, Judy,  DaM  -  and myself, I do not need to supply you all with additional good reason to walk away BUT I DID THIS VERY THING.  I have angered all of you simply because of my decision to fight back  --  not to sit around and watch as you guys had all the fun.   To what avail?   Who knows  -- maybe to give you answer today.   You know how it feels, linda - to be ojn the short end of the stick.  .....   and you do not like it one little bit.   Ditto for all those "we" give reason to walk away.   PROOF BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that the popular response is to be angered and walk way form meaningful discussion.  
 
Tha's my short answer.
 
JD    
 
 
 
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Sent: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 05:57:07 -0500
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ

JD, could you please provide scientific statistical evidence of your statement below?  It seems to me that those who are ?driven away? are already lost.  Izzy
 
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
 
What I do know, kevin, is that hundreds more are driven away than are brought to the Lord with the "lets go scream at total strangers" evangelism.  If that is not what you do, do not take it personally. 
 
Jd 
 
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From: Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:45:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
And hundreds are driven further away 
 
So you the self appointed authority on evangelism says.
What are they driven away to? Hell number 2?

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And hundreds are driven further away  ---     such an argument justifies any appraoch as long as someone is converted.    If it were up to some SP, there would be virtually no one in the church, today.  
 
Jd
 
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From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 22:10:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
John wrote:
> Waving another man's undies over your head while
> "preaching the gospel"  is a waste of time
 
Aside from the ad hominem mischaracterization of "another man's undies," aren't you forgeting about the people who converted to Christ because of it?  If just one person is awaken from their stupor of a false religion, how could that be a "waste of time"?
 
Peace be with you.
David Miller.

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