I read your comments, David. The situation is behind us for the most part. So I'll abstain from stirring the kettle with a response.
Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ > David Miller wrote: > >> I think the problem here, Bill, is that you are changing > >> the context of Judy's statements when you critique them > >> as evidence of hypocrisy. Judy is trying to bring back > >> that context in her paragraph above. > > Bill Taylor wrote: > > Not so, David. Her statements above are a smokescreen. > > She is attempting to find a way to get away from the context > > of our discussion. > > Hmmm. Might I suggest, then, that perhaps you both are approaching the > discussion from different contexts? In other words, you have a foundation > and goal for speaking which differs from Judy's? > > Bill Taylor wrote: > > This has been a discussion on one subject and one only > > throughout: her unreasonable standard of precluding the > > use of non-biblical terminology to speak of biblical matters; > > the criticisms which grow out of this; and her own violation > > of this standard. > > >From where I sit, there is much misunderstanding between you two. > > Bill Taylor wrote: > > The evidence of hypocrisy is her unwillingness to admit that > > she does the very thing she criticizes others for doing. She > > has on many ocassions criticized me, as well as others here > > on TT, for using the term "perichoresis" to describe the inner > > relationships of the Trinity. She knows this and you know it, > > David. Yet she uses the word "symphony" in her description > > of the same inner relations. When confronted about it, she > > skirts the question and makes excuses, instead of taking > > responsibility for her comments. This is hypocrisy. > > Perhaps, or perhaps she considers the use of such terms differently and does > not know how to communicate that to you. I certainly think there is a lot > of difference between her use of the word "symphony" and your use of the > word "perichoresis." For starters, symphony is a word which most people are > familiar with and therefore has some ability to communicate a thought. > "Periochoresis," on the other hand, has absolutely no meaning to most people > and must be thoroughly stuided before even beginning to use the word. The > uneducated are likely to think, "why bother." > > Bill Taylor wrote: > > My only request has been that she recognize this and change > > her unrealistic expectation of others, concerning the language > > they use to speak about God. > > I think you misunderstand exactly what she is asking of you in regards to > the language you use to speak about God. I doubt Judy would have had any > problem with you using the word "symphony." > > Bill Taylor wrote: > > ... this is not about "creeds." It is about her disdain for > > the use of theological terminology to speak of biblical > > concepts and her refusal to acknowledge that she too > > uses theologically loaded terms to speak of the same. > > You seem to have a point here. Perhaps there is another issue at work here, > and that is Judy's bias against intellectualizing and complicating simple > matters. As a scientist, I had experienced this for all the scientific > words and terminology we used. In fact, my language became such that I > could barely communicate well on biological issues with anyone who was not a > scientist already familiar with the terms and concepts with which I worked. > The language that assisted me with in depth study and analysis isolated me > from those who I wished the most to share it with. > > Sorry to cut this short. I'm being called away right now. I did want to > say thank you for the suggestion about "non-Biblical" rather than > "un-Biblical." That does better communicate the meaning. Thank you. > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
