It is of note to me that your examples do not include the New Covenant family of God.    I rest my case.
 
JD 
 
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From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:08:45 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ

John wrote:
> But God does not kick us out of the family
> --  we leave.

This is true in some cases, such as the prodigal son, but God also kicks 
people out who he does not want to be there.  If God can kick Lucifer out, 
and if he can kick the angels that sinned out, and if he can kick Adam out 
of the garden, etc., well, we have a pretty clear picture that God kicks 
people out despite their desire to be in his kingdom.

Luke 13:24-28
(24) Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will 
seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
(25) When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the 
door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, 
Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not 
whence ye are:
(26) Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, 
and thou hast taught in our streets.
(27) But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from 
me, all ye workers of iniquity.
(28) There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see 
Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, 
and you yourselves thrust out.

Matthew 7:19-23
(19) Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast 
into the fire.
(20) Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
(21) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the 
kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in 
heaven.
(22) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in 
thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many 
wonderful works?
(23) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye 
that work iniquity.

Matthew 25:8-13
(8) And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps 
are gone out.
(9) But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us 
and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
(10) And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were 
ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
(11) Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
(12) But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
(13) Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the 
Son of man cometh.

Matthew 25:29-46
(29) For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have 
abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he 
hath.
(30) And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall 
be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
(31) When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels 
with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
(32) And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate 
them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
(33) And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the 
left.
(34) Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed 
of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of 
the world:
(35) For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave 
me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
(36) Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in 
prison, and ye came unto me.
(37) Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an 
hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
(38) When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed 
thee?
(39) Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
(40) And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, 
Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye 
have done it unto me.
(41) Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye 
cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
(42) For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye 
gave me no drink:
(43) I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: 
sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
(44) Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an 
hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did 
not minister unto thee?
(45) Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as 
ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
(46) And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous 
into life eternal.

Peace be with you.
David Miller. 

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