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Jt refers to 'Einstein (as) the unbeliever'. He was
not an unbeliever. Nobody is an 'unbeliever'.
IFF you are not a dualist then he (Einstein) showed
you nothing. IFF you are then, he did.
Should we (those on TT who are
interested) actually arrive at a 'unified' (pun intended) understanding of
dualism then we shall see whether or not it (being/not being a dualist)
matters.
I'll 'show my cards' in advance here by saying that
IMO & in general (a qualification from the last time I said something
similar to this) believers will not be moved from the positions they currently
hold on almost anything. Now, as to why this is so, well, that's an important
matter for another day.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: July 06, 2005 07:03
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism -
splitting apart that which ought not be split
I'm interested in Christines outline but I'm not sure
that it is for the same reasons as you
and Lance. What she has shared already is
actively walking after the Spirit which permeates
every part of our daily lives" which is life to
me.
OTOH your mentor TFT puts forth a whole other
view ie:
"Albert Einstein showed us in the advance of our
science the damaging dualist fallacy which has
affected so much modern thought especially in the
psychological and sociological sciences is
being steadily rejected for a more holistic approach.
Thus a nondualist unitary conception of human
being is being reached supporting the
Jewish-Christian understanding of human being as embodied
soul and ensouled body."
Which isn't even in the same ballpark theology,
psychology and sociology = science?
Albert Einstein the unbeliever showing the "damaging
dualist fallacy"?
Yes, indeed. And, Christine -- do present
your thoughts o n "dualism" and "duality"
(a previous request from Lance).
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]Would
you be so kind as to share the outline with us. It is of genuine
interest
to me. I believe that Bill, Debbie and, John would also appreciate
your
observations of this.
From: "Christine Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Hello, Judy, Thank you. Yes, I enjoyed my vacation
> very much.
:-)
>
> I was fascinated to see dualism being discussed on
TT:
> I'm teaching on it this Wednesday night to the youth
>
group at church.
>
>
> Blessings
>
> --- Judy
Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> > Amen!
> > Bless you Christine - You pop
up again just when we
> > need you most :)
> > I was
wondering where you had gone - hope you
> > enjoyed your
holiday. jt
> >
> > On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:50:33
-0700 (PDT) Christine
> > Miller
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> > > Lance wrote:
> > > > Should you and
your grandchild go out today for
> > an
> > > > ice
cream cone, would your enjoyment of this be
> > > >
spiritual/carnal?
> > >
> > > I think what Judy is
talking about is a sort of
> > faith
> > > that
permeates into all aspects of our life. In
> > Luke 3
> >
> John the Baptist talks about this:
> > >
> > >
Luk 3:7 Then said he to the multitude that came
> >
forth
> > > to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers,
who
> > > hath warned you to flee from the wrath to
come?
> > > Luk 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy
of
> > > repentance, and begin not to say within
> >
yourselves, We
> > > have Abraham to our father: for I say unto
you,
> > That
> > > God is able of these stones to
raise up children
> > unto
> > > Abraham.
> >
> Luk 3:9 And now also the axe is laid unto the
> > root
of
> > > the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth
not
> > > forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into
the
> > fire.
> > >
> > > Luk 3:10
And the people asked him, saying, What
> > shall
> > >
we do then?
> > > Luk 3:11 He answereth and saith unto
them, He
> > that
> > > hath two coats, let him impart
to him that hath
> > none;
> > > and he that hath meat,
let him do likewise.
> > > Luk 3:12 Then came also
publicans to be baptized,
> > and
> > > said unto him,
Master, what shall we do?
> > > Luk 3:13 And he said unto
them, Exact no more
> > than
> > > that which is
appointed you.
> > > Luk 3:14 And the soldiers likewise
demanded of
> > him,
> > > saying, And what shall we
do? And he said unto
> > them,
> > > Do violence to no
man, neither accuse any falsely;
> > and
> > > be
content with your wages.
> > >
> > > He told the tax
collectors not to overcharge, and
> > the
> > >
soldiers to be content with their wages. These are
> > > pretty
non-religious events. If there were
> > > grandparents there, I
would imagine he would tell
> > them
> > > to take
their grandchildren for ice cream cones
> > and to
> >
> teach them how to give thanks for their meal.
> > >
>
> > Do you see how bringing Jesus to the ice cream
> >
parlor
> > > with you is what it means to be a true follower
of
> > > Christ? John was telling the multitudes there
not
> > to
> > > separate their baptism with their
everyday lives.
> > > Equally, we bring God into otherwise
unspiritual
> > > places, and those around will say, "Surely God
is
> > in
> > > this place, and I knew it not," as
Jacob said
> > after
> > > awaking from his dream in
Gen. 28. You'll notice
> > that
> > > Jacob laid his
head in a "certain place," which is
> > to
> > > say,
in any old place. This incident seems to
> > speak to
> >
> the very heart of dualism, and points out that our
> >
God
> > > is not a God of dualism. You will find and
worship
> > Him
> > > in all places.
> >
>
> > >
> > > Blessings!
> >
>
> > > Christine
> > >
> > >
>
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