Lance suggests that I missed his point. I don't think so, Lance. Your point was that regardless of the importance of God's Spirit, Bill won't become a skilled chess player in two months time, and Vladimir won't understand the Bible in two months time. My point is that you are wrong because you confuse natural progression with teaching and revelation that happens through the Holy Spirit. You think natural inclination and inspiration is the same thing as being baptized with the Holy Spirit and experiencing his revelatory work of John 16:13 etc.
I used the analogy of Jesus mentoring to illustrate how it would be wrong. I used the illustration because you cannot understand the mentoring aspects of the Holy Spirit. I was putting it in natural terms for you. You understand the concept of Jesus in person visiting and teaching someone, but you do not understand how the Holy Spirit works in a similar but even greater way, as a better teacher than this scenario that I have suggested. My point was not to argue that Jesus bodily does this with people you know. I was raising a hypothetical situation for you. Would the idea of Jesus sitting down and explaining these passages for two months change the outcome of your analogy? Yes or no? You never answered my question. Who would you think would have a better understanding of the meaning meant to be communicated by the author of these passages given the situation of Jesus tutoring Vladimir in this way? Please answer the question even if you think the analogy is bogus. Peace be with you. David Miller. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.

