You're so cute when you get angry! 'One of the greatest deceptions'?
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: July 18, 2005 16:21
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14
Lance wrote:
As to the supposed contradiction: It has to do with
the expression 'believes in'. None of us, as JD has
said, relies on those teachings as finally determinative
for our 'faith' in God through Christ.
When a concept seems to be contrary to a favorite teaching, it is not
given
the time of day. I would say that this makes the teaching determinative
for
your faith, wouldn't you?
For example, if I teach holiness, JD can't hear it because it cuts across
the doctrines of men concerning grace which he believes in.
Concerning his statement that not one person on TruthTalk believes in the
"doctrines of men," JD has written:
"I speak of personal motivation and, no, I do not allow a difference of
opinion on this issue. I have been led by the Spirit into this statement
and cannot, therefore, be wrong."
It seems to me then that it would be fruitless for me to argue that a
lurking atheist might possibly believe a doctrine of man. JD would
embrace
his statement as authoritative and determinative and not accept any
further
arguments to the contrary.
So, no, I'm not sure I get your point. Perhaps it is a matter of degree
that
you wish to argue. It just seems to me that any of us who allow any
doctrine to shape our acceptance or rejection of Scripture are falling
into
the problem that Jesus warned us about.
Another example: JD strongly believes that a person should have
hermeneutic
principles by which to interpret Scripture. Furthermore, one of his
hermeneutics is to read passages only in very narrow and specific contexts
and not to interpret anything beyond that. From my perspective, that is
very legalistic, but from his perspective, it is proper exegesis.
Nevertheless, it gives him a convenient way in which to dismiss Scripture
that might point him to a truth that he is blind about.
Another hermeneutic he has is the silence of Scripture. He employs this
often, not willing to hear that which is not specifically taught and
commanded in Scripture. This is another legalistic trend, but again, he
does not recognize it as such.
So you say that none of you "believe in" any doctrine of men, but clearly
such doctrines of men shape and fashion everything about you, how the
Scriptures are studied, what you do with street preachers and prophets,
what
you do with claims of revelation, how you walk in holiness, etc. It could
very well be that this idea that nobody on TruthTalk believes in the
doctrines of men is one of the greatest deceptions ever posted on
TruthTalk!
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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