the NASV catches the point of Amos 3:3. Two cannot walk together unless there is a decision to do so. I can walk with anyone if I only decided to do so. Absolutely NOTHING in that decision requires to me to be in total agreement with the other -- as you claim. That is all that is being said, no matter what translation is used. All of your commentary is just that, your commentary!! There is no biblical basis for it, no quoting of scripture -- just kevin deegan's conjecture.
JD
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:46:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] GOOFY Translations
In Amos 3:3 God is rebuking his people for their sin of departing from him and being rebellious. The Lord says: "Can two walk together, except they BE AGREED?" In other words, we must be in agreement with God, see things the way He does, and assent to walk in fellowship with Him or we shall surely suffer the consequences. Other versions that agree with the KJB here are the ASV (the version so highly praised by the NASB as being the Rock of Biblical Honesty), Revised Version, the Geneva Bible, both the 1917 and 1936 Hebrew-English versions, the Spanish Reina Valera, Darby, Douay, New Life Version, Websters Bible translation, NKJV, Green's interlinear and others. However the NASB says: "Do two men walk together unless they HAVE MADE AN APPOINTMENT?" There is no word for "men" in the Hebrew, so the meaning that this is talking about God and his people walking together is lost. The NASB is speaking about just two men. The phrase "they have made an appointment" completely changes the meaning. People can make an appointment to meet together physically, yet they can totally disagree with each other and hold opposite views. The whole meaning of the verse has been changed. The NIV has: "Do two walk together unless THEY HAVE AGREED TO DO SO?, and Daniel Wallace's goofy NET version actually says: "Do two walk together WITHOUT HAVING MET?" http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/Biblebabel3.html --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > "unless they be agreed to walk together.' NASV " .. unless they > have an appointment." It certainly does not mean "unless they agree > on every single important consideration." > > JD > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:23:39 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Mt. 16:13 fg > > > > Maybe you could help me with this then? > > Amos 3:3 How can two walk together except they be agreed? > > --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > OK but, I don't think the same concerning yourself. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin Deegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: July 18, 2005 15:48 > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14 > > > > > > > > > > And as long as you hold the doctrines you do, I will HOLD to > > separation > > > NOT UNITY with you > > > > > > --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> The unity comes NOT through agreement on doctrine(s) > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Kevin Deegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > >> Sent: July 18, 2005 11:44 > > >> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14 > > >> > > >> > > >> > Sorry I disagree with you JD > > >> > I guess we have NO UNITY then! > > >> > That is fine with me, based on the doctrines you profer, I > > prefer > > >> NO > > >> > UNITY with you! > > >> > > > >> > UNITY with ERROR holds no attraction for me. > > >> > > > >> > --- ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> We have no unity of agreement on that statement, obviously. > I > > >> >> consider anyone who follows RCC doctrine, or theologians' > > doctrine > > >> in > > >> > direct conflict> with God's Word to be following the doctrines > > of > > >> men. > > >> > izzy > > >> >> > > >> >> _____ > > >> >> > > >> >> Not one person on this site believes in "doctrines of > men." > > >> >> JD > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > ____________________________________________________ > > >> > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > >> > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > >> > > > >> > ---------- > > >> > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, > that > > you > > >> may > > >> > know how you ought to answer every man." 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