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What you do Lance feels to me like "ad-hominem" I
know you disagree with what you see as my enlightenment
tainted doctrine and you
don't think that those of us who are not into the "Christ event" the same way
you are
know what we are talking about. But then you
don't think that those of us who live in the US know anything about
this country or it's political stance either
and when you do what you do in the way that you
do it - you are coming
against my person in a way
that belittles and demeans and is not Christian. You may challenge
anything I write
if you will take the time to do your homework and write a response worth taking the time to read - just
leave my
person to God. Thanks.
No Judy, I won't restrain myself! On those
occasions wherein I've spoken to my belief as to the genuineness of your
discipleship, I quite meant every one. On those occasions that I've addressed,
IMO, your 'not getting it', I also expressed my heart/mind
conviction.
IFF David has done the same then, there is no
hope of achieving 'dialogical status' between Bill & yourself. It shall
remain a 'mutual monologue' where never the twain shall
meet. Either David is cutting you a
remarkable amount of 'slack' or, he is a companion heretic on several issues
(IMO-please, Mr. Moderator, take note of this qualifier)
Lance if you have something to say I would be glad
to hear you but I'm a little (no a lot) tired of
these never ending one liners that constantly
remind me of my seeming (to you) ignorance. If you can
show me where I am wrong IN GOD'S WORD I am all
eyes and ears. If not, then please restrain
yourself. judyt
YOU KNOW NOT WHEREOF YOU SPEAK!!
Not a very pleasant way to express yourself
Bill.
If you have had all you can take - it is your
problem rather than mine.
Be glad to communicate whenever you have
recovered. judyt
Judy, I agree with all of this just fine
(in that I am able to draw the distinctions necessary to apprehend
your position and based upon those distinctions, find enough common
ground to agree with you), but I have had all of you I can take for
one day. If you want to address this later, when you are more willing
to make an honest effort to apprehend my positions, then I may
consider pursuing this. But not until then.
Bill
Good, then we can move on to what the
scriptural definitions of life and death might be.
Have we established the fact that
God, Satan, and mankind are all spirit and all commune spirit
to spirit?.
Job tells us "there is a spirit in man and
the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding
(32:8)
Moses & Aaron knew "O God, the God of
the spirits of all flesh" (Num 16:22)
In Proverbs we are told "the spirit of man
is the candle of the Lord searching all the inward parts of the
belly (20:27)
Proverbs also teaches that "perverseness is
a breach in the spirit" (15:4)
Where is man's spirit?
The spirit is not the body and the spirit
is not the mind; the heart of man is his spirit
A merry heart makes a cheerful countenance,
but by sorrow of the heart the spirit is broken (Prov
15:13)
A man's spirit can sustain his infirmity
but a broken spirit who can bear (Prov 18:14)
God says "I formeth the spirit of man
within him" (Zech 12:1)
Any problem with the above?
judyt
Thank you, Judy. Yes, I am very
happy to agree with you on all of these things. Bill
Bill, could we
discuss some areas where we do agree allowing scripture to
interpret scripture
because for me it is totally
frustrating to have to go
the long route by way of Gk philosophy, logic, etc.
Could we agree on the following for a
start?
God is a Spirit (John
4:24)
Man is primarily spirit, soul, and body
(1 Thess 5:23)
Satan is a spirit (Heb 1:7) he is
a fallen angel and angels are spirits
If we can agree on the above then
hopefully we can move on to what God means when He speaks
of
life and death - rather than
replicating the errors of the
ancients.
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