The difference JD is that neither of us claim infallibility - that is the realm of your mentors and
the Pope who is the head mentor.  I know David has ministry gifts working but they are also
subject to examination. You put the infallible label on him.  I think you Lance, Bill et al have a
totally wrong concept of what DM is saying and what I am saying also.  You appear to run
things through the grid of the Church Fathers, Athanasius, Gregory, Augustine, etc.
 
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:24:42 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy, you miss my point, completely.   You claim to be led by the Spirit into a non-interpretive understanding of the biblical text.  So does DM.   You both cannot be right, either in your doctrinal opinion of the issue at hand or in your (you and/or DM) claim that the work of the Spirit includes an infallible impartation of knowing.  Because of the postulated truth that no two individuals agree in total, this "infallible" thingy always takes us to the irresistible conclusion that only one person in this world is right.   Since DM lays claim to apostleship and the office of Prophet,  my money will be on him  (this is in spite of my obviously preference for you).  The only task remaining is for DM to issue a series of statements revealing those teachings that cannot possibly be wrong  (seriously) and we will, thus, know the boundry of public discussion that lend itself to true dialogue.   Since dM agrees with 90% of what I believe,  we can only assume that the total body of ex cathedra related material represents only 10% of that which is represented in the biblical message.  presenting us (here on TT) with much to discuss  ..................................   No, wait !!!   The 10%  that DM disagrees with is "infallible" content.  Right?   And if he agrees with me on the remaining 90%  --  well, that would mean tha he and I are standing in agreement  -  "infallible understanding" embraced in a communi ty of thought, as it were.   Soooooooo,  I guess I could speak on the 90% with a sense of infallibility,  surrendering to DM on the remaining 10% 
 
Now (and once again), all we need to know is what teachings are included in that 10%  Perhaps DM could help us out.
 
JD
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:41:04 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

My statement below has nothing at all to do with DavidM or Bill for that matter.
Why are you stirring the pot JD?  All I can say is "if the shoe fits"  I have not
become a judge over men/women.
 
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:30:07 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy, your statement below means, of course, that your discussion with David
over the "sinful flesh" of Christ issue is only about you seeking (eventually) to
correct DM in the spirit you correct Bill.  And, to the degree DM agrees with your
statement --  ditto.   So are you two exchanging views at all?  JD 
 
 
Nailing jello is much more like trying to pin down men with deceitful hearts
who change like the wind.  Whereas the Word of God is the same Yesterday,
Today, and Forever.  You can say "It is written" and as the saying goes "take
it to the Bank"
 
 
 

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