RE: [TruthTalk] The Spalding Enigma

[ShieldsFamily]

Did they follow the same theologians as you do, or did you pick that up on your own? iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:59 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Spalding Enigma   Why? Mom and Dad. ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: July 22, 2005 09:40 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Spalding Enigma   Why?   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:43 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Spalding Enigma   Alan & Ruth. ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: July 20, 2005 23:35 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Spalding Enigma   Lance who are your spiritual parents? iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:51 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Spalding Enigma   This is as close to being accurately apprehended as has ever happened since my 'spiritual parents gave birth to me'. Thanks and SOL ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: July 20, 2005 16:38 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Spalding Enigma   Blainer:  LOL  I have not been following Lance's comments that closely, but I have read a few, so I think I see what you are saying.  The quote does seem to get at a very important point, however.  It suggests that one can choose to disbelieve something, even in the face of strong evidence that it is true.  Or, on the other hand, that one can choose to believe something, even if it is obviously not true.  For instance, some people still choose to believe Elvis Presley still lives, or John Kennedy is being kept alive by artificial means, despite overwhelming evidence that neither belief is supported by even a shred of evidence.  I see this human tendency--when applied to religion at least--as being the reason most people on TT do not agree with one another on very much.  They choose to believe or disbelieve for reasons other than logic and/or scriptural evidence.   In a message dated 7/20/2005 9:29:54 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lance wrote/quoted it, which is ironic since he doesn’t believe one can understand the truth about anything. iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:20 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Spalding Enigma   ????? who wrote this???? > The primacy of belief IS the underlying point, Iz. > > Someone has said that 'unless we believe we will not understand and, it is > only if we believe that we will understand. There is no understanding > without the commitment of the mind to objective reality and to its natural > or intrinsic intelligibility. Blainer:  This could be the most fundamental truth I have encountered on TT.  I could not tell who wrote it--Lance?  Izz?