Terry, can you take comment on these points one by one and let me know why
you think each is pitiful. Thanks.
Perry
From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:22:24 -0500
Pitiful.
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To argue that salvation is free but after the initial event, we must obey
to maintain this salvation is wrong on several levels:
1.. Such denies the unmeritorious gift of salvation by faith through
grace and THAT NOT OF YOURSELVES, it is the gift of God. 2. It does
not allow for failure -- we must obey all of the law (cf. #4)
3. It creates a system that is essentially the same as that of the
Mosaic Covenant. 4. The blood of Christ, which replaced the continuing
sacrifices of bulls and goats, is replaced by
by repeated confession of sins --- the disciple being lost
until confession is presented and
repentance is evidences. 5. It denies that obedience extend
from saving and vital faith -- demanding a soteriological value be
attached to works, in and of themselves!!! 6. It pronounces
that what God could not do for man, man must do for himself !!
7. It denies the need for the exchange of faith for righteousness
(Rom 4). JD
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From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:05:32 -0500
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Specifically (if you know), what is the point here? Who denies that we
are blessed in following the advice of the Lord? Where, pray tell, is
it said that we are not saved until and unless we accomplish this task?
Where are those words? (Hint - they are not there). JD
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They may not be there in the words you have chosen to use, John, but they
are there.
"Why do you call me Lord, Lord, and do not the things that I tell you?"
Hint: Faith saves, but fruit is the proof of salvation. You produce
fruit by doing as you are told by your Lord.. That is why He is called
Lord. He is the guy in charge. We are His slaves. He orders, we obey.
Put another way, if you do not do as He says, you are not His. It is
important to understand that.
Terry
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