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Like good song lyrics or a poem. You can't be
lazy.
Debbie
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Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 2:55
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John
16:13,14
Are we all mad because Professor Ottoson does not write at a 4th grade level? I like
it for just that reason. I have to sit and think about it for a
while. It is almost always good - and at times
profound.
JD -----Original Message----- From:
ShieldsFamily < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]Sent:
Sat, 30 Jul 2005 10:28:35
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It only makes sense to those in the right Klingon time travel wave length, Kevin. That's why I
don't even bother to read the stuff. izzy
Do you have a secret decoder
ring?
Maybe if I quickly blink my eyes as I am
reading....
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This bears repeating -- so here it is again -- let it
sink in. -----Original
Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[email protected]Sent: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:06:31
-0600 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14
by contrast,
G-m's apply (theoretical) obedience training, manipulating a dog to a
certain behavior, to the subjects of NT
because they never volunteered to love Love..
..volunteering to love Love, like the Ap John does, to love him who
volunteers to love me perpetually, unconditionally, is the normal
modern response to the NT
it's rooted
in (his) healing..
Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin
is lawlessness.
But you know that he appeared so that he might take
away our sins. And in him is no sin.
No one who lives in him keeps on
sinning.
1 John 3
acc to the Ap john, JC voluntarily
removes sin--all of it, perpetually
i volunteer
to love them guys
my committment to
them has nothin' to do with the
superficial results of involuntary compliance
the truth
is that JCs command
no one can keep--heal! -- is saving me
i believe
this
healing is
not conditioned on obedience
and, since
God himself, who can't be manipulated to heal, heals
voluntarily, perpetually, (then) all obedience training is a
farce..
for
humans biblical salvation is purely voluntary, like the
Alamo--you wanna defend the
KoG in history
with JC, cross his line
in the sand
this is
obedience to him--salvation (via 'a crucifixion') you
volunteer for is just that, voluntary
who,
then, as a volunteer, has any right to compel the involuntary
religious obedience of another?
while the
G-m's (God-manipulators) among us do exactly that requiring
y/our compliance by a certain force, ask 'compliance? to
whom?'
i'd say these G-m types never
volunteered for nothin' worth
volunteerin' for and that's
their real problem; FTR, neither God's nor mine
To argue that salvation is free but
after the initial event, we must obey to maintain this salvation
is wrong on several levels:
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6. [re: pronouncing] 'that what God could not
do for man, man must do for himself !!'
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