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If I remember correctly this was not about Arianism, it
was about some Greek word they came up with to
describe the "essence" or whatever of God that was not
in scripture. Some of the Bishops balked but they
finally came around to Anathasius way of
thinking. The creed itself that they were working on was supposed
to refute
heresy.
It does not appear that we are talking
about just the eternal Sonship of Christ -- but
something that is bigger and even more important. Judy, please
be careful, here, that in your zeal to disagree with me that you are not
misrepresenting your own beliefs.
jt: I agree with the statement above
JD
My belief is that our disagreement most
likely goes all the way back to the council of Nicea in May
325AD where they eventually agreed to redefine God using
a Greek word that is totally unscriptural - For this reason they
had problems getting complete agreement - but the "Berean"
bishops finally caved.
jt: I don't trust your memory Bill. I would
have to see this because this does not sound like anything I even
believe...
The Arians didn't cave .. they were hunted down as
hereticks by Athanasius just like the Donatists were hunted
down by Augustine and Servetus was hunted down by
Calvin.
If it is in response to the dialogue between
DavidM and me, then you should know that I do not advocate Docetism,
Donatism, Arianism, or any other
ism.
That's interesting, Judy. I seem to remember you referring to the
Arian bishops at Nicea as the "Bereans,"
who finally caved into Athanasius' teaching. How is this not advocating
Arianism? Bill
Thanks so much for this outline Kats (is
it?)
If it is in response to the dialogue between
DavidM and me, then you should know that I do not advocate
Docetism,
Donatism, Arianism, or any other
ism.
You write: Jesus was both divine and human but perhaps we do not
think often enough of the humanity of Jesus. Jesus came to break
down barriers between between God and us and if do not acknowledge the
humanity of Jesus, that Jesus was like us in every
way except sin as the Letter to the Hebrews says in 4:15, we are
erecting barriers between God and us once again. Also Heb 2:17-18
states. "It was essential that he should be made completely like his
brothers so that he could become a compassionate and trustworthy high
priest for their relationship to God, able to expaite the sins of the
people. For the suffering he himself passed through while being
put to the test enables him to help others when they are being put to
the test."
jt: Just wondering if you hold to what is
known as "Orthodoxy" Kats.
"Christ Jesus... thought it not
robbery to be equal with God: But made Himself of no reputation, and
took upon Him the form of a servant, and
was made in the likeness of men..."
Philippians 2:5-7
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