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If I find it I'll send it on.
I know the word in question was "homoousios" which was
used in what they called the filioque which was controversial
then and continued to be controversial validating the
scriptural caution against adding or taking from what
is written. judyt
Well, it's not posted at the time you made the
claim, but maybe you referenced it at some other time.
Bill
I can't remember off the top of my head. It was
when I was researching the creeds; I probably have the source
on a floppy somewhere but would have to search for
it. I know I posted it to the list at the time. jt
Hi Judy, where did you come up with this idea
concerning bishops "who
wanted to stay true to scripture and resisted
adding an extra biblical definition"? To my knowledge, I've
not come across it before. Would you please substantiate it
referentially?
Bill
No I am not speaking of Arian JD. When I
say Berean I am talking about the Bishops who
wanted to stay true to scripture and resisted
adding an extra biblical definition. This is
being
"Berean" as per Acts 17:11.
You speak of Arian when you say "the 'Berean'
(whatever that is) bishops finally caved?
JD From: Bill Taylor < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It does not appear that we are
talking about just the eternal Sonship of Christ
-- but something that is bigger and even more
important. Judy, please be careful, here, that in your
zeal to disagree with me that you are not misrepresenting your own
beliefs.
jt: I agree with the statement above
JD
My belief is that our disagreement most
likely goes all the way back to the council of Nicea in
May 325AD where they eventually agreed to redefine
God using a Greek word that is totally unscriptural
- For this reason they had problems getting complete
agreement - but the "Berean" bishops finally
caved.
jt: I don't trust
your memory Bill. I would have to see this because this does
not sound like anything I even believe...
The Arians didn't cave .. they were hunted
down as hereticks by Athanasius just like the Donatists were
hunted
down by Augustine and Servetus was hunted
down by Calvin.
If it is in response to the dialogue
between DavidM and me, then you should know that I do
not advocate Docetism,
Donatism, Arianism, or any other
ism.
That's interesting, Judy. I seem to remember you referring to
the Arian bishops at Nicea as the "Bereans," who finally
caved into Athanasius' teaching. How is this not advocating
Arianism? Bill
Thanks so much for this outline Kats
(is it?)
If it is in response to the dialogue
between DavidM and me, then you should know that I do
not advocate Docetism,
Donatism, Arianism, or any other
ism.
You write: Jesus was both divine and human but perhaps we
do not think often enough of the humanity of Jesus. Jesus
came to break down barriers between between God and us and if do
not acknowledge the humanity of Jesus, that Jesus was like us in
every way except sin as the Letter to
the Hebrews says in 4:15, we are erecting barriers between God
and us once again. Also Heb 2:17-18 states. "It was
essential that he should be made completely like his brothers so
that he could become a compassionate and trustworthy high priest
for their relationship to God, able to expaite the sins of the
people. For the suffering he himself passed through while
being put to the test enables him to help others when they are
being put to the test."
jt: Just wondering if you hold to
what is known as "Orthodoxy" Kats.
"Christ Jesus... thought it
not robbery to be equal with God: But made Himself of no
reputation, and took upon Him the
form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men..." Philippians
2:5-7
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