Re: [TruthTalk] The Humanity of Jesus

[Judy Taylor]

Izzy I keep saying what I believe according to how I understand Genesis and the result of the fall.  When I write this to TT - ppl immediately classify it as "original sin" a rcd or Augustinian teaching.  Do the scriptures have no say here at all?  How do you see the fall then?  Did Adam negate his responsibility.  Did he lose the dominion he had been given, turning it over to the adversary?  Did another kingdom have access to mankind following this incident?   On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:37:17 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Either you believe we are born sinful simply because we have human flesh before we ever actually sin, or you do not.  Which do you believe?   jt: Sounds like you have it all figured out Izzy. Yes I believe humankind are born with the taint of sin, we all deserve hell – This statement means you believe in original sin, as all humans Are born tainted with sin and deserving of hell.   As for babies.  That decision belongs with God. I am not going to pronounce them either lost or saved; it's Jesus' call. This statement means you don’t know if you believe in original sin, as you don’t know if babies are born tainted with sin and deserving  of hell the moment they are born.      I would appreciate a straight answer.  If you don't know which one you believe please say so.  Yes or No: Are you a sinner the moment you are born, worthy of hell? Please answer.  (Surely you don't think that depends upon who your parents are?) Thanks, izzy  I don't know. I agree.  Thanks.  izzy