DAVEH:  I'm curious.   What do you folks believe would have happened if A&E had not fallen?  Would their children have been perfect, or could some have sinned while others remained without sin?  And what effect would that have had on the world?


jt: What does the fall have to do with then? We are born under a curse because of Adam's fall
and for this reason death reigns and this is why we are so in need of a daysman redeemer.
 
JD:  You continue to ignore Ro 5:12 which plainly contradicts your theory.  Why?

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